Year to burn, what to do?

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  1. Hello, having recently failing the AIB, im considering having another bash at the AIB, because i think i'll have a better chance 2nd time round!
    Anyway, in the mean time, im wondering if anyone knows what i could get involved in towards the RN until the year waiting time runs out.
    I havent yet met with my liason officer post AIB, but would prefer to have some ideas to put towards him. I applied for Pilot so does anyone know if there are any things around this area that i could do to pump up the experience and impress the AIB second time round?

    Cheers

    Andy
     
  2. FlagWagger

    FlagWagger Book Reviewer

    In order to gain better insight into how the navy works, try your local RNR unit, if there's one near you.
     
  3. Was looking in that direction, but doesnt that involve a commitment of so many years? the nearest one is Nottingham (i think), a bit far from where i am.
    Thanks for the idea though.
     
  4. As you are going for pilot get in contact with the fleet air arm officers association and see if you can get a gliding scholarship, i have applied today and am waiting on a reply.
     
  5. FlagWagger

    FlagWagger Book Reviewer

    Technically you sign up for a 5 year engagement, but there is no compulsion in this - also, if you're transferring to the regulars they're unlikely to compel you to stay.

    Why is Nottingham difficult to get to? In my early days in the RNR, I drove nearly 60 miles from Corby across to Brum in order to attend drills out of term time (I was a student in Brum). If you want to demonstrate commitment to the RN, citing "it's a bit far" won't give you much credit witht he AIB should you decide to re-apply. Stop looking for problems that will prevent you from achieving your goal of a flying commission, start looking for solutions and overcoming those problems - the AIB will be looking for evidence of commitment and maturity!
     
  6. i would love to go down to Nottingham! Its just that i havent started driving as of yet, but that will change soon. How often would you have to attend? I read something about weekly meetings? It'll be a bit costly from Huddersfield if it was weekly. Although its definatley something i will discuss with my liason officer and i would love to get into it.

    I will also look into the fleet air arm officers association. Thanks for the suggestion. Any other ideas?

    Cheers guys

    Andy
     
  7. Hi Andy

    The RNR Unit in Nottingham (HMS Sherwood) has a satellite unit in Leeds. I hope that the following information is of help to you.

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    Introduction to the Unit
    HMS Sherwood based in Nottingham and its satellite unit (or tender), Ceres Division, based in Leeds, provide a centre for the support and progress of your RNR career.

    HMS Sherwood
    Chalfont Drive
    Nottingham
    NG8 3LT
    Tel: 0115 929 6373
    Fax: 0115 929 0464
    Email: [email protected]

    HMS Sherwood provides a friendly and sociable environment in well equipped units in Nottingham and Leeds and the full-time RN and civilian staff are there to advise and encourage the reservists in their training and personal administration and development. See The Sherwood Commitment for more information.

    If you are interested in joining we can introduce you to the RNR through our regular recruiting presentation evenings and explain what a part-time career in the RNR has to offer. We can also assist you throughout your selection process with the Armed Forces Careers Office. See How do I join? for further details.

    Unit Training and Specialist Roles
    Training evenings take place in Sherwood on a Tuesday night and in Ceres on a Thursday night between 7-30pm and 9-30pm throughout the year.

    Having successfully passed through the selection process you will continue with your Basic Training as a New Entry Rating or Officer training during the weekly evening activities in the unit and occasional weekend training activities in both the local region and nationally to improve your level of fitness, learn how to work as a successful team member and to develop your powers of communication and leadership. The New Entry Rating training phase takes around 12 months to complete and concludes with a 2-week course at HMS Raleigh in Cornwall. Officer training takes a similar length of time and concludes with a Fleetboard examination in Portsmouth.

    As well as New Entry training both Sherwood and Ceres also supports all specialist branch training (see Jobs/Roles) through a full and stimulating local programme tailored where possible to the individual’s needs with access to specialist RNR training at regional and national events which may include participating in national/NATO RN/RNR exercises. An annual training programme which takes account of specialist branch requirements and an individual’s availability to attend training will be constructed for each reservist. In addition the Unit will also seek the support of reservists to attend training evenings on a regular basis for unit-based activities and to assist in local recruiting and public relations events.

    In addition you will have access to a wide and varied range of sporting and adventurous training activities at little or no cost to yourself with expert instruction available in most cases.

    Throughout your time in the Reserves you will receive the full assistance and encouragement of the unit to help you meet your own personal development goals and to progress your RNR career.

    We have chosen to support “Cancer Research UK†as our charity.
    Cancer Research UK
     
  8. Andy,
    It looks like you are in a similar position to the the one I was in a year or so ago. The set back of not being successful at AIB is huge, but it's good to see that you are looking to improve. Some advice I would give you would be to be proactive with youe ACLO. I found that mine was very willing to help out, but you NEED TO ASK FOR IT! Don't be shy about that, there is a lot they can do. First you need to take notes on your AIB debrief. There will be a lot to take in, and you should write it down so that you are clear where your improvments need to be made.
    Then ask youe ACLO about aquaint courses. These are absolute gold! The AIB love them, and they are bloody good fun too. There are many to choose from (FAA, Warfare, Leadership, gliding and powered camps among others). I went on two, one at Collingwood and one at Culdrose. These made a huge difference to my preparation for second AIB, and as said were great fun!
    Would have to second what the others are saying about RNR. It is proberbly the best preparation you can do, and you get paid for it!
    Other than that speak to as many people as you can about life in the FAA. Oh, and feel free to write to the CO at the air stations. By going to the top they will answer your letters, and are likely to accomodate you. I wrote to Yeovilton and Culdrose and whilst they could not accomodate any work experience for me I spent a day at each visiting the various squadrons. This was organised especially for me, and provided a huge insight into the different roles and aircraft. Spending time in the crew room is about the best way of understanding your future role too; exactly what the AIB is looking for. If you organise it early enough you may even get a flight out of it....


    Hope this help, and see you soon
     
  9. Thankyou for your advice, i will now contact my liasons officer so that i can get the most out of my spare year!

    Cheers as always!

    Andy
     
  10. Hi Andy

    Can I suggest that you strike while the iron is hot? I've always found it brings the best results.

    Here is a link to the Gliding Scholarships page - fill in the online form today.

    http://www.fleetairarmoa.org/pages/aviation_scholarship_awards/scholarship.shtml

    You have the details of HMS Sherwood's satellite unit HMS Ceres in Leeds, which I sent you earlier, so send them an e-mail today.

    The other thing which I thought of this morning was whether you could help out with your local Sea Cadets. On the assumption that you live in Huddersfield, here's a link to your local unit:

    http://units.ms-sc.org/huddersfield/Default

    Ring up your ACLO today to ask for details of the Acquaint Courses.

    Follow up the items in TeddyT's post which I haven't just mentioned.

    Am looking forward to reading a report back on your progress by Monday .........
     
  11. I also had the same idea of joining the RNR if i fail my AIB this week. I felt however that this would not be an option for two reasons. Firstly i was under the impression that the application time for joining up was as long as to join as a rating in the RN (6 months). Secondly i didn't think the RNR would accept you if they knew you intended to leave after one year to go and join the regulars.
     
  12. The RNR were happy to take me on despite knowing that I was going to join full-time in the near future, the way they see it the more people in the RN who know a bit about the RNR the better for them.
     
  13. How about a expedition or something similar? there is tonnes of leadership oriented trips to all over the world, which would show commitment, motivation and give you leadership skills. Im considering doing one this year as my AIB isn't for a while (haven't even got a date yet). It depends on your age and skills but some organisations may even pay you to do if if you act as a leader for a group of younger people. Look at the World Challenge website or BSES.ORG.UK.

    Just a thought :)
     
  14. Where to go from where you are now? Well I think it really depends on what the AIB felt were your weaker areas. First of all going back shows real determination, it takes alot to almost put your life on pause for a career.

    Secondly, if in your AIB you showed fantastic Royal Navy knowledge, how much extra would acquaint visits give you? Where as if its a lack of life experiences and leadership skills you need to do something that would give you good organisational experience, so working in the youth sector, working with and occasionally taking charge of groups, as well as working as part of a team.

    Hopefully your ACLO will be able to give you advice as to what you can do to help build in those areas you need some more work on. All the best!
     
  15. Did you get a De-Brief? Check which boxes need ticking and work on those.
    In the meantime get yourself some leadership skills by doing a sport coaching course (Such as Mountain Leader. See the British Mountaineering Club for details or similar.) Looks good on the CV and will come in handy later in your career for leading Adventure Training activities. See if you can get yourself on an Outward Bound Course if you're inexperienced in that sort of thing, as that always ticks a box or two as well.
     

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