WW2 Wren research

nhvm

Midshipman
Hi all - a bit of help if you could please, I currently am doing research on WW2 Wrens and would like to know the following which I am struggling with:

Please note that this info required is all pertaining to WW2

1- Were berets issued to Wren 'officers'?
2- Were berets issued to Wren 'ratings'?
3- If so what size was the badge?

Info is for an actual 'beret' and not the pork pie style hat of ratings or Tricorne of officers

Some photographic evidence would be wanted please to back-up any 'positive' answer.

Thank you for any help.
 

ratsroden

Lantern Swinger
Hi all - a bit of help if you could please, I currently am doing research on WW2 Wrens and would like to know the following which I am struggling with:

Please note that this info required is all pertaining to WW2

1- Were berets issued to Wren 'officers'?
2- Were berets issued to Wren 'ratings'?
3- If so what size was the badge?

Info is for an actual 'beret' and not the pork pie style hat of ratings or Tricorne of officers

Some photographic evidence would be wanted please to back-up any 'positive' answer.

Thank you for any help.
No berets were worn. The rather shapeless headgear of junior ratings could be mistaken for berets.
 

nhvm

Midshipman
If that is correct do you happen to know when eventually the RN introduced berets for the Wrens?

Thanks
 

ratsroden

Lantern Swinger
If that is correct do you happen to know when eventually the RN introduced berets for the Wrens?

Thanks
Never having seen one wearing a beret I can only imagine it's when they started dressing them like Edwardian male children.
 

Waspie

War Hero
Never seen or heard of WRNS wearing berets until the early 1990's. As someone mentioned they did have a sloppy blue item of head gear, (attached image), but it wasn't a beret.
 

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WreckerL

War Hero
Berets were introduced to Jack in 1975 (that's when they appeared on the grey thing I was serving on) but possibly issued to new entrants in 1974. The WRNS were fully integrated into the RN in 1993 so I would imagine that was when females wore berets as part of their rig as a general issue, others may have worn them previously depending on their role/draft.
 

nhvm

Midshipman
Up date on this - I am following a lead that is in connection with 30 Commando assault unit (WW2) seemingly they also had women attached, the role was communications/admin but there is also the possibility that a detachment also took part in covert action? - can anybody go any further with this?
 

nhvm

Midshipman
Do you think that is an actual beret or the 'normal' WRN hat? - its hard to really decide which? - as the angle is not so good.
 

Seaweed

War Hero
Book Reviewer
That's a normal WRNS rating's hat but WRNS (certainly later on)used to wear an RM capbadge when attached to RM units which were not 'ships' so did not have an HMS cap tally.
 

nhvm

Midshipman
I've asked The Association of Wrens for help before and they were very helpful - don't know why I didn't think of those again. So many things in ones mind the most obvious always seems to be missed!
 

nhvm

Midshipman
Up date - well I spoke to soon, this time the TAW, after an initial response from them saying it was being passed on to their 'Public relations Officer' - have failed and let me down, not a word from them.
So back to searching other avenues - except I'm running out of avenues!!!!!
 
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