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WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
WRNS disappeared in 1993 so 27 years ago, I would have thought that any blue badge Wrens that didn't volunteer to be sea going have gone and maybe 1 or 2 left.

Why do you need to know?
 

Paxman_Valenta

Lantern Swinger
Not sure I've ever seen any in my time. Although I have met a reservist who was at sea with us, she joined the WRNS in 1990 and transferred over.
 

cjg375

Lantern Swinger
When I went through SRCC in 2005 the course instructor was a non seagoing CPO Wren Comms. As all females who joined since about 1990 had a seagoing liability there will be a very small number remaining if any. They’d need to have been given 2OE or EC to get to the point where they’ve done 30 years. It’s not beyond possibility but ever more remote.
 

maffism

Badgeman
When I went through SRCC in 2005 the course instructor was a non seagoing CPO Wren Comms. As all females who joined since about 1990 had a seagoing liability there will be a very small number remaining if any. They’d need to have been given 2OE or EC to get to the point where they’ve done 30 years. It’s not beyond possibility but ever more remote.
I reckon that when the last one leaves, It'll be in the papers.
 

maffism

Badgeman
When I went through SRCC in 2005 the course instructor was a non seagoing CPO Wren Comms. As all females who joined since about 1990 had a seagoing liability there will be a very small number remaining if any. They’d need to have been given 2OE or EC to get to the point where they’ve done 30 years. It’s not beyond possibility but ever more remote.
True - LOL
 
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Deleted 58790

Guest
One died at sea in action. First Officer Madeline Barclay perished 1 January 1943 aboard HMS Fidelity off the Azores.
Sadly some Merchant Seamen Fidelity had rescued perished with her.
The history of Fidelity is interesting---intrigue at its best
 
There was quite a few in the Harrier circuit, I left in 2008 and a few got offered 20E (10) like I did (I turned it down), I would suggest the few that took it left in around 2018 and I think that would have probably been the end of it.
 
Re #18 <<... HMS Fidelity (D57) was a Special Service Vessel of the British Royal Navy during World War II, originally the French merchant vessel La Rhin....>>
More at Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Fidelity_(D57)

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From http://www.commandoveterans.org/HMSFidelity

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A Marine on HMS FIDELITY From https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/20/a7804820.shtml


Back to that seagoing WREN O - First Officer Madeline Barclay : The Book Reviewed by the DT-

Not so fair in love and war
Anne Chisholm reviews Claude and Madeleine by Edward Marriott. 14 August 2005 • 00:01 am

This book, according to its subtitle, tells "a true story of love, war and espionage". The cover strikes a poignant note; a young naval officer embraces a girl beneath a station clock, as a ship sinks in the background. Throughout his account of his subject's adventures during the Second World War, Edward Marriott does his best to convince us that they were indeed a romantic and heroic couple. He does not altogether succeed; but he has certainly uncovered an extraordinary story.

The basic facts are clear. Claude Peri and Madeleine Bayard were French spies. They met in Indochina in the late 1930s, became lovers, travelled and worked together, were secretly based aboard a merchant ship, Le Rhin, as saboteurs, and were in Paris in June 1940 when the Germans marched in. Determined to fight on, they rejoined Le Rhin in Marseilles and ensured that she sailed for Gibraltar, where Claude offered their services to the British. Despite opposition from his French superiors and most of his crew, he took over Le Rhin and sailed her to Wales.

By early 1941 Le Rhin had become HMS Fidelity and Claude and Madeleine had become Commander Jack Langlais ("the Englishman") and Wren Officer Madeleine Barclay (after the bank). Seconded to SOE (the renowned Special Operations Executive) they made two expeditions to the Mediterranean during 1941 to land and pick up agents; neither was successful, and during the second there was a suicide on board which led to an inquiry into the way the ship was run.

After spending most of 1942 training on the Isle of Wight, in December Fidelity joined a convoy sailing for the Far East. She was sunk by U-boats on December 30; there were no survivors and, because of her irregular origins and activities, her fate, and that of the 300 people on board, was kept secret.

Marriott's researches have been prodigious. He has scoured French and British naval and intelligence archives and tracked down anyone who knew anything about Claude and Madeleine, their backgrounds, their relationship and what went on aboard the ship. The trouble with this material is that it is either official and impersonal, or fragmentary and unreliable. Both of them told tall tales about themselves; both had plenty to hide. Marriott always gives them the benefit of the doubt: "He volatile yet charming; she blonde, feline, a markswoman."

In fact, neither of them was particularly attractive or agreeable. Madeleine seems to have shown emotion only for her dog, and once, when drunk, instructed her fellow officers to lower their trousers so that she could paint their genitals with red ink. Claude's arrogance, vile temper and violent outbursts - he was given to punching subordinates in the face -- are excused as the consequence of a passionate temperament under strain.

Marriott even presents them as better-looking, more glamorously French, than they appear from their photographs - he writes, more than once, of Madeleine's gleaming golden hair and long tanned limbs, whereas she appears to have had fairish curls and short, if neat, legs. Claude was bullet-headed and heavy.

To enliven the tale, Marriott falls into the trap of occasionally, and rather obviously, making things up. The opening pages are a vivid description of how Madeleine was raped on her Vietnamese rubber plantation, which may or may not be true; thereafter there are all too frequent references to the sun or moon gleaming on the water, or tall trees standing out against a winter sky.This is a pity, as it makes one doubt the general veracity of his account, especially as there are no notes to indicate how he has used his material.

The truth seems to be that Claude was a fantasist and a thug, of the kind that can be useful in wartime, and that Madeleine was a tough operator. They were certainly brave, and patriotic, but in fact as a team they achieved little and caused their superiors and colleagues a great deal of trouble.

Perhaps wisely, Marriott does not try to understand their natures. He is content to tell a ripping yarn, which could well end up as an entertaining and cheerfully inaccurate film.


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Back to the original Q -

As @Ninja_Stoker extended his time in a blue suit far beyond the expectation of mere mortals perhaps he knows of a former non-seagoing blue badge Jenny Wren or two still serving in a similar role somewhere over those rainbows we see everywhere these days.

If @maffism is still genuinely interested then extending his researches beyond these cloistered pages may attract positive results...
 
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