Writer or CIS? Decisions!

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  1. Passed my RT and I have a few options.

    Originally I wanted CIS but I now hear it's changed? I've spoken to a few people who are current CIS and a couple of them have branch changed and the others warned me against it!

    My second option was writer.
    I also had mine warfare specialist.

    Anyone have any opinions?!
    I know it's my decision at the end of the day, think I'm heading more towards writer... Not sure of this engineering lark!

  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Depends on the individual.

    CIS now has technical qualifications, Writer & MW don't.

    If you are looking for transferable skills, I'd place ET(WE)CIS first, followed by Writer. Writers don't go to sea much. Mine-Warfare is similar to Warfare Specialist but restricted to minor war vessels. As such, apart from the Gulf, overseas travel is unlikely to take-in much beyond Europe if things remain unchanged.
  3. Listen to yer unkie Ninja
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  4. Warned you against what?
    What have they experienced in the fleet at try and put you off being a CIS???
  5. As a serving CIS, I hope you picked writer.

    Can't beat the white mafia!
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  6. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    What appeals more about Writer - daywork, non-technical or limited sea-time?
  7. Writer offers more shore time. For sure. May not sound appealing now but it will in a few years.

    However, more paper work/admin and auditing etc.
  8. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    It's certainly the case that the average matelot only serves around six years - usually because they gain the transferable skills and their personal circumstances evolve. Once people settle in to a relationship, maybe have kids etc., going to sea is no longer compatible for everyone.

    One thing that does bewilder me however, is people who join the Navy who don't want to go to sea from the outset.
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  9. My bold - in my experience this is, very worryingly, an increasing trend - I blame the Careers Advisers!;)
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  10. Can't see a problem meself, the careers advisors don't want to go to sea either:eek:
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  11. Spent my time in the Writer branch - for me, though, I was always looking at the greener grass - really enjoyed the RASs (even at 05 dubs) (batman on the bridge roof - superb!) - seaman specialists skidding around in seariders, s**tloads of stokers on a run ashore together having a good crack. Almost tx to HC but it would have meant next 4 years at sea on a 42 or some such...staring at Movement Occurence Reports all day was never my ambition...just sayin
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  12. All 3 plus higher pay band at AB level. Best selection of drafts as well I'd say.
  13. AB Writer is actually lower pay band. It's at the killick level that we go up to the higher echelons of pay.
  14. Realistically, how quickly can one get to killick from AB?
  15. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Four years is not unrealistic at present but it can take longer and it will inevitably vary.
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  16. Inevitably vary between ships and boats, or more based on the individual in question?
  17. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Promotion should be pretty much equal and depends on the competency of the individual being reported upon, not where they are serving.

    Trouble is, there will always some who are able to write 'better' appraisal reports than others so although it shouldn't be the case, there can sometimes be localised anomalies due to flaws in the reporting chain process.
  18. Given the change to pay structures, eligibility for Engineers FRI and fast track under Faraday, CIS has suddenly become alot more attractive

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