Woman claims hugs gave her cancer

Pathetic headline for this very tragic case BH - still I'm long past expecting ethical reporting from journalists. Obviously there are some exceptions.

:roll:
 
i think she may have a good case -

if you could see some of the drivel of society and the blame culture we now live in this one may some legs
 
She is perfectly entitled to seek damages for lack of care by the MOD. They were the ones who endangered dockyard workers children and they should duly pay damages, not that you can ever fully compensate someone for a reduced life expectancy or quality of life.
 

RoofRat

War Hero
Akin to this subject matter, Mesethelioma.
Have any of you seen, anywhere, the old Asbestos covered Fearnought fire helmets? They virtually dissapeared overnight some time in the early/mid seventies.
I need to get a piece of the asbestos fabric for analysis. There is a fairly high incidence of Aircraft Handlers, both here and in Australia who have developed the disease.
Please feel free to PM me if you want to stay anonymous.
RoofRat
 

RoofRat

War Hero
Aussiepint for your information,
* Mesothelioma is usually caused by asbestos exposure. Asbestos is a fibrous mineral known to be carcinogenic. People who are exposed to asbestos fibers for just a short period of time (few weeks) or even to a small amount may be at risk. In particular, people working with asbestos and their family members or those who live with them develop mesothelioma.
* There is a long latency period between initial exposure to asbestos and the development of malignant tumors. On average, 35-40 years elapse before the onset of disease.

It can't be caused by smoking or by familial history.
RoofRat
 

aussiepint

War Hero
RoofRat was making point regarding serious VS poorly documented cases like this one. Sorry I obvously hit a nerve with you! Cancer being spread via a hug?
 

Jimmy_Green

War Hero
If a child gives her father a hug whilst his clothes are covered in asbestos fibres it is easy to see how those fibres can be breathed in.

I grant you though that the headline itself is quite shit.
 
Worked in a asbestos factory in the early days.

Looking back it was so pathetic what these people worked in. One bloke used to wash his hands in the recycled asbestos water then go off for his scran. Then we had the beater man on Saturday morning who would be chipping away in the mixer hopper with a pathetic dust mask chipping off the old asbestos.

As children we would play in the wolves cave!! This was a cave? dug out of old asbestos on the tip. We often talk about that place, now covered over during the night which would have credited a SF OP.

I feel for the poor souls who actually mined raw asbestos in far off lands many years ago. No compo no medical treatment.
 
I remember a DCI back in the '80s distinguishing between hazardous and non hazardous asbestos. Can't remember which were which now; white, brown, blue (crocodilite?). I'm sure that was based on the best medical evidence at the time and, clearly, flawed. Would the Royal Dockyard have knowingly placed men's health at risk? The H&S brigade was well dug in by that time.

As Jimmy_Green said, it would be easy for her to breath in fibres off her dad. The question is whether or not MoD(N) was negligent at the time. Of course we feel the sadness for this and it's natural to feel that she is a victim who's owed something; but who's victim is she?

One of the things we easily overlook when we consider our overstretched Defence Budget is the tens of millions of Pounds handed out for sundry compensation. The Treasury sure as hell doesn't insure us against it.
 
Jackf

The Crown doesn't take out insurance. It covers its own liabilities; at risk. The Dockyard Partners will but I doubt they will pick up liabilities from before their ownership.
 
Passed-over_Loggie said:
I remember a DCI back in the '80s distinguishing between hazardous and non hazardous asbestos. Can't remember which were which now; white, brown, blue (crocodilite?). I'm sure that was based on the best medical evidence at the time and, clearly, flawed. Would the Royal Dockyard have knowingly placed men's health at risk? The H&S brigade was well dug in by that time.

As Jimmy_Green said, it would be easy for her to breath in fibres off her dad. The question is whether or not MoD(N) was negligent at the time. Of course we feel the sadness for this and it's natural to feel that she is a victim who's owed something; but who's victim is she?

One of the things we easily overlook when we consider our overstretched Defence Budget is the tens of millions of Pounds handed out for sundry compensation. The Treasury sure as hell doesn't insure us against it.
All other employers of people who have suffered at the same time have been found liable so methinks the MOD is unlikely to be different.
 

exile1

Lantern Swinger
i can't remember dockyard mateys wearing their overalls outside of the yard...maybe I'm wrong.
 
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