Will Butlins Ruling affect HMForces

[F169]

From the BBC website, I wonder if it could have implications for Jack living in Barracks?..........

Thousands of ex-holiday camp workers in the UK are in line to receive back-pay totalling about £1m because they had to pay for their own electricity.
Revenue and Customs found some workers at Butlins and Haven holiday camps were charged for gas and electricity when living on site between 2004 and 2005. In a landmark ruling, the Court of Appeal said that meant workers had received less than the minimum wage.

'Wider implications'

Up to 10,000 workers could receive back-pay as a result of the judgement. The case was brought by Revenue and Customs with the support of the GMB union.

It was found that seasonal workers, such as bar staff and receptionists, were each charged £6 a fortnight for gas and electricity when they lived on site between 2004 and 2005. Because they were low paid, the deduction meant they got less than the minimum wage and this breached regulations, it was ruled.

Revenue and Customs said the ruling would have wider implications for all workers in similar circumstances.

 

[geoffg]

Are many HM Forces members on minimum pay these days

geoff(ers) :???:

 

[dunkers]

HM Forces are exempt from the minimum wage :neutral: :roll:

 

[JunglyDaz]

As we are paid 24/7, 365 then most of us probably are on minimum wage!! :lol:

 

[Nutty]

As we are paid 24/7, 365 then most of us probably are on minimum wage!! :lol:

Perhaps you should go on an hourly rate then the people in hot and sandy places and at sea would earn good money and them having Long Week Ends Friday lunch to Monday lunch or being the new version of Barrack Stanchions would earn less. That would a-line you closer to the real world and cover the deployment dodgers.

Nutty

 

[jungle_jim]

i think you will find also that many Barrack Stanchions as you put them, do work long hours also. i know that some so called day workers are still at their "front line dodging posts" till 7-8 PM on many occasions, ensuring thet the guys and girls on the front line are best supported. try looking at what is going on around you and not just in your little world

 

[slim]

i think you will find also that many Barrack Stanchions as you put them, do work long hours also. i know that some so called day workers are still at their "front line dodging posts" till 7-8 PM on many occasions, ensuring thet the guys and girls on the front line are best supported. try looking at what is going on around you and not just in your little world

Come on Jungle_Jim.
Please now go and check that your nose isn't growing. fancy equating front line service to a shore job :smile:

 

[ET(WE)Sutton]

any links i used to work at butlins i mite get money back quaility

 

[mikh]

Come on Jungle_Jim.
Please now go and check that your nose isn't growing. fancy equating front line service to a shore job :smile:

Slim I don't think J_J was equating shore and sea service, just the hours that were put in. I served on 2 ships where I was blue card, and quite often put long hours in, in my last draft shore side I regularly worked 8am 7/8pm (knocking off time was supposed to be 5pm) plus 1 in 4 duty watch (later reduced to 1 in 6) so I did put more hours in when ashore.

 

[chockhead819]

I worked in the Airday co ordinating office at Yeovil put in 5 x 12hr days, at Portland tractors the long week was 68 hrs.

 

[slim]

Agreed there can be occasions when long working hours are expected shoresides, but these are the exception not the norm.
Though I was a wafoo so we knew how to organise our working routines. 24 about worked fine on most shore squadrons, days normally meant days. At Portland the Lynx flights used the 815 duty tractor driver who was on the 24 about routine.

 

[higthepig]

24 hours about at Lossiemouth as a Master Airfield, 72 hrs one week 96 the next all the time.

 

[slim]

24 hours about at Lossiemouth as a Master Airfield, 72 hrs one week 96 the next all the time.

Though these hours look long do not forget that while you were 24 on you were allowed to sleep at night. I realise that in the summer night flying used to finish at about 0300 or even 0400 but this was only for a few months of the year. Though Lossiemouth was an MDA it was so far North that we rarely got used as such. I reckon that the worse thing the fire crew had to put up with was that during the camp cinema on Sundays the OOW nearly always decided to carry out the fire exercise. Result fire crew and emergency party missed the movie.

 

[higthepig]

Youre not quite right slim, MDA was extremely busy, I was also an Air Traffic Controller there as well prior to the RAF taking over, as for sleeping yes when you could but mostly the standby crew.Fire crew never got to go to the movies when i was there , naafi bar perhaps(who said that)

 

[slim]

Youre not quite right slim, MDA was extremely busy, I was also an Air Traffic Controller there as well prior to the RAF taking over, as for sleeping yes when you could but mostly the standby crew.Fire crew never got to go to the movies when i was there , naafi bar perhaps(who said that)

Ah now you are confusing me Hig. I worked shifts in the tower in about 1973 on ground radio, didn't see many ATCs on 24 about. Used to have a coffee with the met wrns sometimes. Must admit once routine maintenance was completed I used to get my head down in the radar room. Best bit was freshly picked airfield mushrooms for breakfast.