Why would i need good eyesight for the Submarine Service?

The_Sherminator

Midshipman
Hello Chaps, i recently had my meeting with the careers liason officer, as i wish to become a Submarine warfare officer. Unfourtunately for me my eyesight is only Standard 3 (this means i cannot see too well without my glasses or contacts, although with them i'm better than 20/20).

Anyway, i neglected to mention the word 'submarine' to the good lieutenant immediately - mainly because i didn't really get the chance. He told me i had no chance of becoming a Warfare Officer and immediately tried to railroad me into logistics. Of course when i mentioned boats he changed his tune and said i might be able to - he said he's ask anyway...then he tried to railroad me into logistics again.

I was just wondering what i would need good unaided eyesight for on a submarine? He was telling me that as a logistics officer (which i can do) i would still do warfare things like watches and submarine driving, just with the added bonus that if i do turn out to be any good i can eventually look foward to...a depot. (I must confess to finding the prospect of being in charge of a room full of the navy's nuts and bolts slightly less motivating that maybe having your own ship one day! So i'd really prefer to get into warfare). I suppose if you were one of the chaps standing on the dorsal navigating out of port you would require good eyesight but couldn't i just...put my glasses on??? In fact can't i just do that all the time...like i've been doing everyday for quite sometime now? I have to question, if there is ever a time when i can't put my glasses on onboard a submarine, do i really want to see whats going on? It seems a bit silly to me, Nelson only had one eye and he wasn't the worst commander in the world...

Do you reckon they'll give in on this one, because i'm really not sure about the logistics thing? Surely it makes sense to have someone onboard a submarine who actually wants to be there (crappy correctable eyesight or not), rather than raining on some holidaymaker from the surface fleets parade?

You guys know what you're talking about, what do you make of all this?
 

scabz

Lantern Swinger
Re: Why would i need good eyesight for the Submarine Service

You need good eyesight so that when you're on watch on the bridge (the exposed bit on the top of the fin, the bit that civvies/skimmers call "the conning tower") you have half a chance of seeing the other craft out there when it's p***ing down so that you have a reasonable chance of missing them.
Having come rather too close, in the past, to other vessels, because it turned out that the Officer of the Watch needed rather more correction for his eyesight than people realised, I'd rather have someone up there who can see.
Go MESM instead, it's warm and you get as much tea as you can drink when you're on watch.
 

The_Sherminator

Midshipman
Re: Why would i need good eyesight for the Submarine Service

scabz said:
You need good eyesight so that when you're on watch on the bridge (the exposed bit on the top of the fin, the bit that civvies/skimmers call "the conning tower") you have half a chance of seeing the other craft out there when it's p***ing down so that you have a reasonable chance of missing them.
Having come rather too close, in the past, to other vessels, because it turned out that the Officer of the Watch needed rather more correction for his eyesight than people realised, I'd rather have someone up there who can see.
Go MESM instead, it's warm and you get as much tea as you can drink when you're on watch.

MESM?
 
Re: Why would i need good eyesight for the Submarine Service

x4nd said:
The_Sherminator said:

Bin bag, back aftie
Oi! That'll be the master race to you popeye! :evil:

:lol:
No bridge watchkeeping, no guns qualifications, and none of this 6 on 6 off shite either.

You do, however, get to play with a reactor, and get Cat A Nuclear Pay (£13 is a day) when you're qualified ...

BUT always remember that Recruitment speak with forked tongue. The reason he's pushing you to drive sausages is because they don't have enough sausage drivers, not because you're the best man for the job. Decide what you want to do & accept no substitute. Or at least not much ... I nearly ended up as a Stores Accountant until one of my mates who was in the Navy re-briefed me on topics such as just how easy it is to change branches, how easy it is to go from Mechanic to Artificer & how easy it is to get commissioned from the ranks!
 

x4nd

Lantern Swinger
Re: Why would i need good eyesight for the Submarine Service

padbeat said:
x4nd said:
The_Sherminator said:

Bin bag, back aftie
Oi! That'll be the master race to you popeye! :evil:

:lol:
No bridge watchkeeping, no guns qualifications, and none of this 6 on 6 off shite either.

You do, however, get to play with a reactor, and get Cat A Nuclear Pay (£13 is a day) when you're qualified ...

BUT always remember that Recruitment speak with forked tongue. The reason he's pushing you to drive sausages is because they don't have enough sausage drivers, not because you're the best man for the job. Decide what you want to do & accept no substitute. Or at least not much ... I nearly ended up as a Stores Accountant until one of my mates who was in the Navy re-briefed me on topics such as just how easy it is to change branches, how easy it is to go from Mechanic to Artificer & how easy it is to get commissioned from the ranks!

Bin bag, master race? You’re having a giraffe?
 

The_Sherminator

Midshipman
Re: Why would i need good eyesight for the Submarine Service

Well the Med. board have said standard II vision is definately the minimum so it's the logistics officer or nothing. This is quite disappointing coming from someone who originally wanted to be aircrew. The problem is this just doesn't sound like a particularly interesting department to me. It sounds almost like a military secretary/admin man, would that be about right in your experience?

Well i'm not joining to be an admin man. Is it true the Royal Marines accept Standard III people? I'd rather put in the extra fitness work and do something that i consider excting and worthwhile.
 

SUYAIB

Badgeman
The_Sherminator said:
Anyway, i neglected to mention the word 'submarine' to the good lieutenant immediately - mainly because i didn't really get the chance. He told me i had no chance of becoming a Warfare Officer and immediately tried to railroad me into logistics. Of course when i mentioned boats he changed his tune and said i might be able to - he said he's ask anyway...then he tried to railroad me into logistics again.

I'm not 100 percent sure but I believe that both Logistics and Weapon Engineering (SM) officers must meet the same eyesight requirements as X(SM) due to the fact they also carry out periscope watchkeeping.

Sorry to disappoint, but if you don't meet the standard for warfare GS or SM then I reckon you've no chance as a Logs(SM)

It's not all bad being a loggie I would imagine, yes not really that many sea jobs but there's loads of officer jobs (common appointments) that can be filled by any branch.

Good luck with whatever route you follow
 

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