Who Wants their own copy of Patrick O'brians Red Sailor?

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  1. Patrick O'Brian's Red Sailor? Now that would be a Surprise!
     
  2. This is the fictional story about Able Seaman Varn serving in His Majesties Imperial Navy just as the Korean War is kicking off. He's a typical Jolly Jack as sailors used to be when Royal Navy sailors were sung about feted and admired, had hearts of gold, were irreverent of authority, lewd, funny and hard as nails.

    Quite evocative reading for any who have served during the sixties and before - unfortunately to today's serving sailors, ham strung as they are with political correctness, health & safety, dignity at work, lord knows what else and who go on operations listening to an iPod then bursting into tears when it’s taken away - it is a totally unrecognisable Navy. This book is ideal for ex-Royal Navy personnel.

    The jargon in it is pure navy speak – have The Pusser’s Rum publication “Slanguage” to hand if you haven’t served, as much of it will not be understood by "landlubbers!" The story however is an excellent pastiche of naval life in the fifties and early sixties. The main character, Able Seaman Varne is also a typical Jack-me-hearty of the period. This was the post war golden age of the Royal Navy when the navy was a worldwide force and a tot of rum was gold dust, used almost as currency and imbibed on a daily basis.

    The story is set aboard a destroyer HMS Homage on the Far East Station. There is action, and graphic details of life aboard a warship, and runs ashore a plenty.

    In one particular scene, Varne, forever "in the rattle” for one misdemeanour or another, has the opportunity to have all forgiven, redeem himself and to shine in his senior officers eyes by winning a boxing match and also a prestigious cup for the ship. In a boxing match well described with all the sweat and snot reminiscent of any of The Rocky series, he does win, then sells the cup in a backstreet and spends the money on a Japanese woman.

    O'Hara was obviously either in the R.N., or had firsthand experience of a sailor's life. A superb read!
     
  3. janner

    janner War Hero Book Reviewer

    Interesting in that its a reprint of the 1903 edition
     
  4. Good spot,wrong,:oops: Patrick

    The Red Sailor Paperback – 1971
    by Patrick O'Hara (Author)
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2015
  5. Its a facsimile of the original book which had an error stating that it was printed in 1903, should have stated 1963.
    See:
    The description in the one for sale on Ebay item number
    351463628253
     
  6. My copy of the "Red Sailor2 Arrived today, pretty quickly as it had to come from India.
    Looks like the book has been photocopied rather than set in type or scanned and text recognition software used.
    However for the price it is certainly readable and I am looking forward to reading it.
     
  7. Just finished reading it. Good dits, but not worth the price asked for the original. My copy was £14 from Amazon, hard back with dust cover. Sent from India.
    Geoff:)
     
  8. Well I am half way through reading the book and I have a couple of questions.
    I joined in 1963 and never heard of women referred to as pushers. I also never heard of the mob being referred to as the Imperial navy.
    Can anyone enlighten me?
     
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  10. have now ordered the book from abe books comong from india looking forward to getting it as it brings back memories
     
  11. just ordered the same book from india as well been looking for it for ages
     
  12. "Pushers", yep, along with "Parties". I was in also in the 60s and it was a common description for a bird. :cool:
     
  13. janner

    janner War Hero Book Reviewer

    My memory ties in with bollotom's, in both cases, but I've no idea on the origins.
     
  14. Best I can come up with, it indeed was a service slang word for a prostitute but became obsolete (??) when the use for a drug pusher overrode it. There was also a "Square pusher" who was a girl of good reputation. Probably a word shrouded in the mists of time. From my own experience, as I remember, it was simply a term used to describe a girl/woman. :cool:
     
  15. Well that's it then, life will never be the same. My sole reason for agreeing to be dragged around car boot sales and charity shops is over. Its like finding you can get hold of the Holy Grail at Tesco's.:(
     
  16. Thanks to the first guy that found it and started the ball rolling. Just ordered my copy. Like Rogersthecabinboy said its like finding the Holy Grail at Tesco's. I read it when I was on the Tenby 63/4 and the one copy went round the stokers mess quicker than a ten bob hooker. In those days there were still a sprinkling of three badgemen in JR's messes with Korean and Suez medals so even better for them that someone took the time to write about them and their time from the JR point of view, laced with vast amounts of cynicism. Even 50 years on I can still remember the line prior to the boxing match where his mate said ' there are watches as a prize' and he said yeah f****** middle watches. I thought that statement summed up our view of the management!! I still occasionally use the term imperial navy today. At the time O'Hara got it spot on. Although about Korea He wrote it after Suez so Irony and cynicism all rolled into one showing that the messdecks had a more realistic notion of our new place in the world than they did on 1 deck!
     

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