Where will it end with these religious people

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Islamic ruling bans Malaysia's Muslims from practising yogaIan MacKinnon, south-east Asia correspondent
guardian.co.uk, Monday November 24 2008 00.01 GMT
The Guardian, Monday November 24 2008
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First it was the insidious habit of young women wearing trousers. Now Malaysia's Muslims have been warned off the perils of practising yoga.

The country's leading Islamic council has issued an edict prohibiting people indulging in the exercise, fearing its Hindu roots could corrupt them.

The national fatwa council's latest decision again reflects a tilt toward an increasingly conservative strain of Islam in predominantly Muslim Malaysia. It is causing consternation among the country's other ethnic groups that make up a third of the 27-million population.

The fatwa, or decision, prompted sneering remarks from liberal commentators who urged people not to be cowed by the "robed and the turbaned" who made such rulings.

But Abdul Shukor Husim, the council's chairman, said: "We are of the view that yoga, which originates in Hinduism, combines a physical exercise, religious elements, chanting and worshipping for the purpose of achieving inner peace and ultimately to be at one with god. For us, yoga destroys a Muslim's faith. There are other ways to get exercise. You can go cycling, swimming and eat less fatty food."

The ruling comes after the council said young Muslim women who wore trousers risked becoming sexually active or "turning" to lesbianism. Gay sex is outlawed in Malaysia.

The government recently had to back away from a proposal to restrict women travelling abroad alone, after derision from women's activists across the country.

But it has banned the use of the word Allah by other religions. An influential Christian group claimed Bibles were also being seized at border entry points.

Of Malaysia's non-Muslim population, 25% are ethnic Chinese and 8% are ethnic Indian, mainly Hindu. The council's ruling does not apply to them and is not legally binding. But most of the country's Muslims heed the edicts out of deference.

Marina Mahathir, a prominent columnist and daughter of the former prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, wondered where it would all stop.

"What next? Gym? Most gyms have men and women together," she wrote on her blog. "Will that not be allowed any more? What endangers a society more ... corrupt citizens and leaders, or yoga practitioners and females who dress in a masculine fashion?"
 
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It happens closer to home too, the new vicar at the church up the road from me banned a yoga class from taking place in the church hall.

Some religious reason for that too.
 
#6
dunkers said:
It happens closer to home too, the new vicar at the church up the road from me banned a yoga class from taking place in the church hall.

Some religious reason for that too.
Really? Just texted my local vicar and he can't think whats wrong with yoga.
 
#7
Moomin said:
Really? Just texted my local vicar and he can't think whats wrong with yoga.
Right, vicar's wife tells me that some (but not all) yoga classes encourage 'tantric sex' ...that explains that one then! :thumright:
 
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Moomin said:
dunkers said:
It happens closer to home too, the new vicar at the church up the road from me banned a yoga class from taking place in the church hall.

Some religious reason for that too.
Really? Just texted my local vicar and he can't think whats wrong with yoga.
Apparently something to do with how yoga clears the mind, whereas when in church you are supposed to be mindful of God, something like that anyway.
That or the tantric sex maybe?
 
#12
NZ_Bootneck said:
It's a Muslim country so surely the National Fatwa Council has some right to make such decrees?
:thumright:

If a Christian country can still pass laws that encapsulate Christian values like restricting marriage (a Pagan custom) to one man and one woman, then I cannot see why a Muslim country should have to obey the Christian laws of its former colonial master, Britain.
 
#13
Moomin said:
dunkers said:
It happens closer to home too, the new vicar at the church up the road from me banned a yoga class from taking place in the church hall.

Some religious reason for that too.
Really? Just texted my local vicar and he can't think whats wrong with yoga.
It's apparently quite common in Bible Belt US as well, some of those churches have been discouraging yoga, tai chi, meditation etc for years. It's by no means the preserve of Islam as would be presumed from the article at this thread origination.

In any case there is a branch of yoga which encourages study of tantra, which is a Hindu and Buddhist concept.

In Buddhism tantra is the revelation of the Buddha (enlightenment), whereas the sutra is the discourse of the Buddha, in this sense the teachings of Sakyamuni. In Tibetan iconography it's usually represented as yogi and yogini in union, hence the interpretation that tantric yoga is sexual.

Hindu interpretation of Tantra is similar althogh the union is more usually Shiva and Shakti.

That is not to say that some tantra practices don't have a physical element, but that's a mechanism for the practice, not the purpose.

It's no surprise that it's not well understood in the UK.
 
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bruno207 said:
There are other ways to get exercise. You can go cycling, swimming and eat less fatty food."
Along with,running around with 40 lbs of semtex strapped to you,running from Security forces,running between benefit offices collecting multiple illegal benefits,climbing up and down the stairs of your 1.5 million pound house provided by some cretin in a Council office!
 
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Moomin said:
Moomin said:
Really? Just texted my local vicar and he can't think whats wrong with yoga.
Right, vicar's wife tells me that some (but not all) yoga classes encourage 'tantric sex' ...that explains that one then! :thumright:
I think the CoE and of course the Roman branch of God Inc should encourage Tantric sex.
All that time spent shagging will reduce other sinning and with multiple male orgasms increase the likelyhood of pregnancy the Pope and the Canterbury Sin Bosun should be told methinks. :thumright:
 

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