Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by Sparkplug, Nov 22, 2015.
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Well, which day is it? Nail biting time....
Tomorrow, most likely in the afternoon.
1430, according to Parliamentary papers. Likely to have "The PM is expected to announce" from the 0630 Today news update...
seems that 8 T26's will replace 13 T23's
T23's will be scrapped so will ocean
according to reports........
so, that will be 6 T45s and 8 T26s
8 is optimistic.
You can't form a CTG with that and have any other capability whatsoever at the same time.
Guess we will find out later what is the real deal.
I wonder if any numbers will actually be cut from the existing fleet?
one of the rumours is Ocean will go...but will that be in a few years when QEC is down in Pompey so to speak
Just expecting two more RAF F35 Squadrons to be formed with all the extra ones on order
138 F35s. That's a kick in the teeth for the 'we'll never get our carriers or planes' brigade eh?
8 x T26 and plans for yet another smaller, lighter UK designed and built frigate to be eased in over the next 15 years. T26 lite?
We don't have the full story yet though, I still expect 23 and ocean to go bye bye. Which will be interesting when it comes to projecting our RM 'strike brigade'.
Just read the official dit
the SDSR states that 19 FF/DDs will be maintained.
Looks like Ocean and a couple of mine sweepers will bite the bullet
Gib sqdn getting 'bolstered' !!!!!
Any news on manning yet?
says the RN and the Air Force will get 700 more people
UK designed & built: tick
We're buying the T21s back from Pakistan aren't we?
All 96 pages.
I havent seen or heard the term 'maintain' used. 6 45 + 8 26 = 14. Then 5 of these newer frigates = 19 by 2030. No clue as to 23 being anywhere in these figures.
Edited to add: disregard, seen it now.
The Royal Navy
4.47 The Royal Navy delivers our nuclear deterrent, projects our maritime power and provides world-class amphibious forces. As part of Joint Force 2025, we will have:
• Two new Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers, the largest warships ever built for the Royal Navy. These will enter service from 2018, transforming the Royal Navy’s ability to project our influence overseas. They will form the core of our maritime task group, with one available at all times. We will increase the number of F35 Lightning aircraft we are buying in the early 2020s to ensure that we make best use of this world-leading capability, and we will buy three new logistic ships to support the fleet, in addition to the four tankers that will enter service from 2016.
Type 45 destroyers, Type 23 frigates, Astute Class submarines and Mine Countermeasure Vessels. We will maintain one of the most capable anti-submarine fleets in the world with the introduction of eight advanced Type 26 Global Combat Ships, which will start to replace our current Type 23 frigates in their anti-submarine role. We will maintain our fleet of 19 frigates and destroyers. We will also launch
a concept study and then design and build a new class of lighter, flexible general purpose frigates so that by the 2030s we can further increase the total number
of frigates and destroyers. These general purpose frigates are also likely to offer increased export potential. We will buy two further new Offshore Patrol Vessels, increasing the Royal Navy’s ability to defend UK interests at home and abroad.
Royal Marines of 3 Commando Brigade who are trained and equipped to provide specialist amphibious and Arctic warfare capabilities. We will enhance a Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carrier to support this amphibious capability.
Chapter 4 – Protect Our People 31
Says maintain FF/DD numbers.
Ocean will go, there is no mention of it in future force structure.
Also notice the line about 'enhancing a QE class carrier' to support amphib........
Ocean is likely to go sooner than perhaps we thought I suspect...
Just on the Beeb that Ocean will go in 2018
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