What's wrong with the navy today?

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Jonathan Lewis is being taken to task for having a piss -up with his crew at the end of a FSC. The navy has always given extra leave at the start and end of a FSC. A grand ball was usuallyalso held.
HMS Trenchant on return from overseas service followed naval tradition and is being persecuted..
 

WreckerL

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Nothing wrong with the Navy, just some senior officers going over the top IMHO. It doesn't help when some prat films it and puts it online.
 

pompeyexpat

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I’ve not seen anyone mention the fact that the Captain (allegedly) explicitly disobeyed an order - and very publicly so. The ridiculousness or otherwise of that order is a moot point but what it certainly wasn’t was illegal and so there’s no excuse for not following it - and absolutely no excuse for setting the example to his Ships Company that you can just chin off your superiors if you don’t like what they’ve ordered.
 

Stirlin

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I’ve not seen anyone mention the fact that the Captain (allegedly) explicitly disobeyed an order - and very publicly so. The ridiculousness or otherwise of that order is a moot point but what it certainly wasn’t was illegal and so there’s no excuse for not following it - and absolutely no excuse for setting the example to his Ships Company that you can just chin off your superiors if you don’t like what they’ve ordered.
Did he ask permission of his superiors ? , if so and they refused as it would be bad PR for the RN then it's 6/half dozen , if they refused permission without giving a reason it's still 6/half dozen.
I am on the half dozen side .:cool:
 
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I’ve not seen anyone mention the fact that the Captain (allegedly) explicitly disobeyed an order - and very publicly so. The ridiculousness or otherwise of that order is a moot point but what it certainly wasn’t was illegal and so there’s no excuse for not following it - and absolutely no excuse for setting the example to his Ships Company that you can just chin off your superiors if you don’t like what they’ve ordered.
It's taken My Lords Commissioners a helluva long time to discover Trenchant's Skipper was a stroppy git.
20 years on boats-- Vigilant twice Turbulent and Trafalgar before Trenchant.
It's just dawned on the Whitehall desk drivers that Submariners are a race apart and don't suffer fools gladly --Has it?
 

slim

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If the RN had handled this pissup wisely it woud have been good PR.
Just think Famiy of sailors who had been self isolating for two months enjoy some fresh air and beveridges before self isolating again for another month.

Prettysure that nobody would have objected to this
 

BARNEYRNSM

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Did he ask permission of his superiors ? , if so and they refused as it would be bad PR for the RN then it's 6/half dozen , if they refused permission without giving a reason it's still 6/half dozen.
I am on the half dozen side .:cool:
He asked permission of the skimmer skipper of the base, was told no, did it anyway, told the MOD Plod to do one and the DNBO and finally Commodore Dev Flot that he didn't care what they said, je was doing it, direct disobedience or whatever officers will get done for.

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Sumo

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Should have said they were having a Banyan, to thank the NHS for looking after their loved ones, whilst they were at sea saving the country, from other enemies.
 

WreckerL

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Should have said they were having a Banyan, to thank the NHS for looking after their loved ones, whilst they were at sea saving the country, from other enemies.
Should have banned smart phones or any other recording device.
 
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now, now, skimmers, sludgemariners, woos...................................we are all matelots together

All matelots together? I fear those days are long gone. Picture postcards might pretend otherwise but they are days even longer gone.
The days of You play ball with me
And I'll scratch yours
Are nowhere to be seen.
 
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