Whats it like in the RNR?

Blackberry, phone Eaglet's recruiting officer, find out when their next recruitment evening is, and pop along. 99% of your questions will be answered professionally . Good luck.
 

Rumrat

War Hero
I actually think you are quite wrong about the views of the RN regulars Trehorn.
A lot of their disrespect for RNR comes from remarks like yours about "doing their job for fun and more money"
The id of the average Matelot is very very complex. The possessive factor of his nature is greater than you can understand without being one.
You see it all the time in this forum if you want proof.
Example. a chief petty officer retired lets say four years makes a comment about the conduct of serving jack, and you will see a coming together of serving ratings quicker than a heard of elephants protecting their young.(And quite right so)
MY ships a load of shit.......yes it is....... is not the right answer...why? would be better.
You go aboard a ship for a few weeks or even months....its not your ship, it will never be.
You criticise the Navy, you ain't entitled is their view. But they can, its their family. They wont come to your place of work and trash the infrastructure,.
Jack don't give a ****??????? Don't you ever believe that for one second, he gives a **** alright, but you ain't going to see it.
Call your wife a fat ugly bitch. You going to let me join in? Didn't think so.
You may well train to do a job. So did he. You walk on the ship thinking you are as good as him. You ain't he does it 24/7, and when he first started as a regular he was told by the experienced hands how gash he was until he'd been doing it for months straight.
Six months after I left the Andrew, I would have been the handicap in my action station until worked up and into the crew.
Could take months, but I still knew the job like you know yours.
When new ships companies come together they need to work up, and that's after they have done a PCT in their own particular part of ship.

And now you think I'm a ex having a go. No not true, I was an instructor with the RNR as a PSI at HMS Forward, so have seen the view from both sides of the field. I concur the RNR are sometimes the brunt of the joke and the quickest way to stop it is roll with it and laugh at yourselves a tad, jack does it all the time.
Still I suppose opinions are like ********* we've all got one and that's mine.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Sounds like a good time :)

I'd been watching some media videos about the two weeks training at Raleigh and theres a girl with the crown on her new entry epaulet, just wondering what rank that is? I never seen it before.

Class leader, not a rank

Also, are your qualifications put towards your rank in terms of seniority towards promotion? Or is that just for regs.

Not sure what you're on about. Qualifications have no bearing on your seniority in RN, spookily enough how long you've been in a particular rate does though.

Is it possible to transfer to regular with the rank you got in the rnr after so many years?

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trehorn

War Hero
I actually think you are quite wrong about the views of the RN regulars Trehorn.
A lot of their disrespect for RNR comes from remarks like yours about "doing their job for fun and more money"
The id of the average Matelot is very very complex. The possessive factor of his nature is greater than you can understand without being one.
You see it all the time in this forum if you want proof.
Example. a chief petty officer retired lets say four years makes a comment about the conduct of serving jack, and you will see a coming together of serving ratings quicker than a heard of elephants protecting their young.(And quite right so)
MY ships a load of shit.......yes it is....... is not the right answer...why? would be better.
You go aboard a ship for a few weeks or even months....its not your ship, it will never be.
You criticise the Navy, you ain't entitled is their view. But they can, its their family. They wont come to your place of work and trash the infrastructure,.
Jack don't give a ****??????? Don't you ever believe that for one second, he gives a **** alright, but you ain't going to see it.
Call your wife a fat ugly bitch. You going to let me join in? Didn't think so.
You may well train to do a job. So did he. You walk on the ship thinking you are as good as him. You ain't he does it 24/7, and when he first started as a regular he was told by the experienced hands how gash he was until he'd been doing it for months straight.
Six months after I left the Andrew, I would have been the handicap in my action station until worked up and into the crew.
Could take months, but I still knew the job like you know yours.
When new ships companies come together they need to work up, and that's after they have done a PCT in their own particular part of ship.

And now you think I'm a ex having a go. No not true, I was an instructor with the RNR as a PSI at HMS Forward, so have seen the view from both sides of the field. I concur the RNR are sometimes the brunt of the joke and the quickest way to stop it is roll with it and laugh at yourselves a tad, jack does it all the time.
Still I suppose opinions are like ********* we've all got one and that's mine.

Wo, wo, wo sweet child of mine! I didn't have the time to add all the smilies and sh*t on my post as the company's spam detector kicks you off the t'internet at 0830. I know how it works RR. Some of the RNR deserve some of the grief they get and some don't. Just like some regulars deserve some grief and some don't. I've never called a ship "mine" or even thought of a ship as mine, aside from the stone frigate we call CERES. And like you say, the paints falling off the walls cos of the damp, the IT rarely works and the plumbing sounds like the Brighouse brass band tuning up but she's my unit and I won't have a bad word said about her (do you even call establishments "her/she"?) I know that if you keep your nose clean, keep your mouth shut and show willing you'll get on. Turn too acting like you know it all is a sure fire way to get people's backs up.

I've only ever met one serious ar*e hole in the regulars. He wouldn't give me the steam off his piss and I wouldn't give him mine. I felt better when I realised that even his shipmates thought he was a throbber with an attitude. My comments were meant in jest towards 2DD - who is renown for his baiting of puddle pirates.
:love:
 

trehorn

War Hero
Sounds like a good time :)

I'd been watching some media videos about the two weeks training at Raleigh and theres a girl with the crown on her new entry epaulet, just wondering what rank that is? I never seen it before.

Also, are your qualifications put towards your rank in terms of seniority towards promotion? Or is that just for regs.

Is it possible to transfer to regular with the rank you got in the rnr after so many years?

Like Wrecker says - she'll be a class leader, sometimes they get to wear a nice sleave thingy on their arm. Not sure what they're called, I never got to wear one:-\\\\\\\\

Qualifications have SFA to do with your rank. Quals might help you go for officer but you earn your rank through keeping your nose clean, getting the ticks in the boxes and showing that you deserve it.
I would advise against pushing for promotion just because you can. Ask yourself honestly if you could do the job of a leading hand/PO/CPO etc before grasping for the hooks etc. Too many units put people forward for promotion because it looks good for the unit instead of looking at the individual and assessing if they're actually suitable for the job.

You can mobilise at the rank you have in the RNR but mobilisation isn't perminant. You can also get Full Time Reserve Service contracts and retain your rank/rate but again this is not perminant. I have known RNR's go on long FTRS contracts and decide they quite like the RN life and have been lucky enough to transfer directly across. This is extremely rare and is even harder now that many of the RNR branches do not mirror the RN equivilant. You couldn't see a RNR Chief from the WARSEA branch transfer into the RN as a Chief gunner. The roles are nothing like each other apart from possibly handing the small arms.

Hope this answers your questions.
 
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Rumrat

War Hero
Wo, wo, wo sweet child of mine! I didn't have the time to add all the smilies and sh*t on my post as the company's spam detector kicks you off the t'internet at 0830. I know how it works RR. Some of the RNR deserve some of the grief they get and some don't. Just like some regulars deserve some grief and some don't. I've never called a ship "mine" or even thought of a ship as mine, aside from the stone frigate we call CERES. And like you say, the paints falling off the walls cos of the damp, the IT rarely works and the plumbing sounds like the Brighouse brass band tuning up but she's my unit and I won't have a bad word said about her (do you even call establishments "her/she"?) I know that if you keep your nose clean, keep your mouth shut and show willing you'll get on. Turn too acting like you know it all is a sure fire way to get people's backs up.

I've only ever met one serious ar*e hole in the regulars. He wouldn't give me the steam off his piss and I wouldn't give him mine. I felt better when I realised that even his shipmates thought he was a throbber with an attitude. My comments were meant in jest towards 2DD - who is renown for his baiting of puddle pirates.
:love:

You only ever met one ******** in the regulars?
You need to get out more, I met hundreds.
And stop winding 2DD have more respect for the aristocracy.
 

TotalAlien

Midshipman
Hi guys,

I'm interested in joining the RNR whilst finishing my degree. In fact I have my PJFT next week.

I'm just wondering how people manage the commitment of attending drill nights at the unit whilst working as well?

Are there struggles or do you fit it all in when told what to do when your in?

Thanks
BB

OP, I have recently joined the RNR as a rating and here is my 2 cents. Providing the unit you join is fairly organised, they should accommodate you quite well there, they certainly were at HMS Forward but all are different. You start with Initial Naval Training which in my opinion is mind numbing and a bit of a drag, I do wonder to myself "Why am I doing this" but then I remember that it wont always be filling in a taskbook and there may be a time when I might get deployed and start doing the work I volunteered to do. To pass the time whilst in INT I have joined the naval gliding school which gives a discounted rate to members of the RN, had my first flight today actually :) So many doors open if you join, you just need to be pro-active with your membership of the RNR, you get out what you put in! My advice would be to join anyway and see if you like it or not, at worst you wont like it and leave, no problem, at least you tried it which is more than most would!
Any Qns feel free to PM me.
 

trehorn

War Hero
Just to confirm that there are 3 compulsary weekends to be undertaken as a New Entry Junior Rating. I checked my correspondence and with our INT instructor. Although I am informed that the details of the assessment weekend seem pretty hard to come by. Anyone know the dates or have a POC who we can chase up?

There will also be a number of other weekends which would be optional but usually well worth attending.

I would also agree with Totalalien. Unfortunately the INT training is mind numbingly boring but you need to look past that. Attending the weekends would certainly help with the bigger picture.
 

jrwlynch

Lantern Swinger
Like Wrecker says - she'll be a class leader, sometimes they get to wear a nice sleave thingy on their arm. Not sure what they're called, I never got to wear one:-\\\\\\\\

I think it's called a "brassard".

Qualifications have SFA to do with your rank. Quals might help you go for officer but you earn your rank through keeping your nose clean, getting the ticks in the boxes and showing that you deserve it.

From the ossifer side - qualifications are just a hurdle to jump. Just because you've got lots more academic paper than the miniimum required also means SFA, it's what you can do with it that matters. Someone with the bare minimum qualifications, but a good attitude and lots of common sense will tend to power ahead; conversely, bleating about how you've got lots of degrees and a PhD just makes you look a little sad and pathetic.

And one thing I like about both regular and reserve RN is how you can never assume that "low rank = low intellect"; we've got some very sharp, quick-minded people coming through the rank system and I like double-tapping the chance to work with the good ones.


I would advise against pushing for promotion just because you can. Ask yourself honestly if you could do the job of a leading hand/PO/CPO etc before grasping for the hooks etc. Too many units put people forward for promotion because it looks good for the unit instead of looking at the individual and assessing if they're actually suitable for the job.

Seriously true - if you get the rank, you need to deliver it. Don't we all have our lists of "if I get to a particular rank, I want to be respected like this guy - not mocked and derided like that one" lists?


The other more selfish issue is do you really *want* it? Think carefully what you want to do and why you want to do it: I gave a lot of thought to coming in as a WAR(SEA) (as they are now) rating and seeing where I'd get to from there, because I used to really enjoy low-level tactics and weapon handling in my long-ago TA days.

I was asked to 'go officer' instead because that's what the RNR was then short of and at the time my unit was particularly short of qualified candidates, and I don''t regret doing so (especially because I ended up in a role that suits me, and I now see I'd have been a pretty poor WAR(SEA) AB - too old and knees too knackered, if nothing else) but again, lots of thought before I went for it; having seen some awesomely bad junior officers, was I going to be any better?

(Anyone who knows me, don't answer that last one ;) )
 

dinger

Newbie
yes i bet it has changed you used to get keel hauled and whipped but food was ok if the chef wasn't pi**ed had 5 years hard labour on Ton class Minesweepers did all my drills did every weekend and all my work holidy was at sea, still keep up to speed with the old gang every 2 month and would certainly would have not missed the experience for the world.
ps i joined 1970 when we had ships not toys and we knew how to abuse them.
Dinger II
 
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