What is your opinion on the DUP? (Democratic Unionist Party of Northern Ireland)

Evloa

Newbie
I would be interested to hear what your opinion / sentiment i.e. those of you in the military community is towards the DUP?

Regardless if you are pro Brexit or anti Brexit, how do you view them?
 

Scran_Bag

Lantern Swinger
I would be interested to hear what your opinion / sentiment i.e. those of you in the military community is towards the DUP?

Regardless if you are pro Brexit or anti Brexit, how do you view them?
And which newspaper do you "work" for ?
 

fishhead

War Hero
Whatever the DUP say or do it is clear they have a good level of support from the NI electorate. A return of 10 MPs to parliament bears testament to that. I'm sure there are those in the military from NI who support them and equally many who don't but that is the same for most political parties.
 

metocman

Lantern Swinger
Whatever the DUP say or do it is clear they have a good level of support from the NI electorate. A return of 10 MPs to parliament bears testament to that. I'm sure there are those in the military from NI who support them and equally many who don't but that is the same for most political parties.
I originate from NI and am a DUP voter. My choices are quite limited in the coming General Election, Alliance(bit like the Lib Dems), DUP(traditional views on social issues, strong on the Union) Sinn Fein(political wing of IRA) or greens(strong on environmental issues but not much else) as well as lots of smaller parties which are weird and wonderful but have no chance of getting elected.
 

SeaBiscuit

Newbie
NI politics is not my specialist subject, but I do think the "confidence and supply" arrangement with the Tories is bribery and basically makes a few NI radicals the kingmakers in Parliament. Without them, the Tories would have no majority. So I think they're clever and astute snakes, who wield far too much power.
 
NI politics is not my specialist subject, but I do think the "confidence and supply" arrangement with the Tories is bribery and basically makes a few NI radicals the kingmakers in Parliament. Without them, the Tories would have no majority. So I think they're clever and astute snakes, who wield far too much power.
Its all a bit surreal. A group of bigoted god bothering creationist loons held the balance of power in the UK. Wouldn't have believed it in this day and age. All part of the rich tapestry I suppose... ;)
 

SeaBiscuit

Newbie
Its all a bit surreal. A group of bigoted god bothering creationist loons held the balance of power in the UK. Wouldn't have believed it in this day and age. All part of the rich tapestry I suppose... ;)
Well when Brexit is "delivered" (despite the fraud and Russian interference) the Scots will quite rightly demand, and get, an second Indy Ref, and leave the UK. Northern Ireland will realise that they have it better than the UK (being still sort-of part of the EU) and eventually form a sort of separate entity with Eire. All because of a few (as you rightly say) God-bothering loons influencing the fate of the entire UK.

Fighting about religion in 2019 and opposing abortion etc is a bad look.
 

Dredd

War Hero
Super Moderator
Well when Brexit is "delivered" (despite the fraud and Russian interference) the Scots will quite rightly demand, and get, an second Indy Ref, and leave the UK.
There may be a referendum but they (YesNP) will lose. Again. But that won't stop them asking for yet another one. Democracy only matters if it is your side that wins.
 

Sumo

War Hero
There may be a referendum but they (YesNP) will lose. Again. But that won't stop them asking for yet another one. Democracy only matters if it is your side that wins.
The plight we have to suffer with the age of entitlement and I am offended?
 

Dredd

War Hero
Super Moderator
It's an unfortunate price of actual democracy and the principle of free speech which underpins it, where the right to protest is a given. Of course, that is the right to peaceful protest, not an excuse for public disorder. And this protest can continue even if you are repeatedly defeated in referenda and at the ballot box. A minority still has a right to be heard, even if most of us do not subscribe to their viewpoint and are actually sick of hearing the constant whining drone.

With a link to the NI political scene, there were problems this year with Loyalist and Republican marches in Glasgow and it got a bit heated. Strangely, anyone outside of the Strathclyde region is bemused by all this as there are none held in any other part of Scotland. It came as a bit of surprise to me when listening to news discussions on the topic to discover that there are actually hundreds of them throughout the year - all confined in this one area! So the principle is to allow peaceful marches which is correct, tempered very much with "but why do they bother" bewilderment of most of the Scottish population.

The NI situation is a consequence of polarisation and entrenched tribalism. I find it very illuminating that the reaction against same sex marriage and abortions recently was led by the DUP and Loyalist side, whereas the supposedly Catholic dominated Sinn Fein were in favour. Was this a case of my enemies enemy is my friend or were they actually quite liberal in their thinking? It's hard to tell but if I was asked who I would see as the one more in tune with modern Western society, it wouldn't be the one wearing red white and blue.
 

slim

War Hero
I have no problems with those who protest peacefuully.
However these morons have repeatedly interupted others who have a right to go about their lawful business, i.e. get to work etc.
If ALL of the protesters who interferred with public rights of way and stopped trains and busses by glueing themselves to them were prosecurted in a criminal court they could be bound over to keep the peace for a year. They would then have a criminal record with all the disadvantages that a criminal record comes with.
For many this would lead to a bar to many avenues of employment.
Perhaps then the bastards would think twice about carrying out their disruption
 

fishhead

War Hero
The NI situation is a consequence of polarisation and entrenched tribalism. I find it very illuminating that the reaction against same sex marriage and abortions recently was led by the DUP and Loyalist side, whereas the supposedly Catholic dominated Sinn Fein were in favour. Was this a case of my enemies enemy is my friend or were they actually quite liberal in their thinking? It's hard to tell but if I was asked who I would see as the one more in tune with modern Western society, it wouldn't be the one wearing red white and blue.
I think Sinn Fein's standpoint was/is that the Republic had legalised both same sex marriage and abortion so to come out against it would have been counter productive to achieving the one nation state they desire.
 

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