What is the point of the Wardroom in the RNR?

:mrgreen: Since when did the Navy and anything to do with it be 'just a job' ? When I was in it was my whole life, not in an anchor faced way but because thats what you did and I loved it , socialising was one of the best things about the Navy. I can see how someone might not want to drink with certain people but at the end of the day if you are part of a real team, you have worked hard together then the next step is to get into the bar and sink a few, more team building if you like. When people start referring to the Mob as just a job then thats it, time to pack up, last man close the hatch behind you! :sad:
 

Six_and_a_Half

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rosinacarley said:
Slim, I agree with everything that you have said about the RN and their messes, however the RNR is a different kettle of fish. I am sorry, but you have to be in it to believe it. What Phil and to a degree Jim say is true. The unit as a whole is on the demise, from its position of strength say 15 years ago. Everything is branch related that the ships company structure has less and less relevance, and that I feel includes the messes.

Having read this it did start me thinking about it more and more, and I can appreciate the sing-song ring of truth in it, but still I'm inclined to disagree with the latter two points.

Everything in the RNR is becoming more branch-related, as can be expected, even the DO's in-unit are responsible for the men in that particular branch (I don't know how this might compare in the regular RN). I feel very little teamly spirit with the Medical and GSS(R)'s nor the Comms branchers. The same goes for the NE's, even though they technically aren't actually in any branch as such. I rarely train with them, never work with them in my civilian life, and apart from the drill nights I don't ever see them.

Which is why the messes at the unit are incredibly important. I always stick around for drinks and a chat, because its nice to learn about the Andrew from other perspectives. Separate messes for the different ranks are a part of service life, and offer advantages. There are advantages perhaps to an all-ranks mess in RTC's because at the end of the night we all return to civilians again, anyway.

I would however, prefer to keep the messes separate as they are in the regular service, because at some point we are expected to serve alongside the regular forces, with the regular forces and as regular forces. So mirroring the mess system is really more of a sort of training, somewhat.
 

Random

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In Civie life ... The guys on the shop floor go to their pubs, the middle managers head for theirs and the directors go their club.

what's different? if you are sociable you go for a few beers with people who will understand your problems/stresses, if you are not ...
 

wysiwyg

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HORNBLOWER said:
:I can see how someone might not want to drink with certain people but at the end of the day if you are part of a real team, you have worked hard together then the next step is to get into the bar and sink a few, more team building if you like.

Unfortuately, the local plod and subsequent magistrate will take a dim view of this. I doubt that there are many reservists that don't have to get behind a steering wheel to get home! I've never viewed coca cola as an effective aid to team building!!!!
 

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