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what does the x mean in service number

just found my dads service number he was a royal marine ply/x5703 i understand ply is plymouth but what is the x? i can remember being told when i was small he served aboard the ark royal , he was born 1930 so probably joined 1946-48 and i understand he served a good many years i would love to find out more if anyone can point me in the right direction
 
sorry to be stupid ex pongo here , but still unsure what the x is as my father was a royal marine so only had 4 digits in his service number 5703 is this correct?
 
does anyone have any pictures or details of the ark royal company of marines around 47 to 54 and where can i get hold of my fathers service record if i do not know when he took the shilling
 

fishhead

War Hero
does anyone have any pictures or details of the ark royal company of marines around 47 to 54 and where can i get hold of my fathers service record if i do not know when he took the shilling
It may be worth looking for a Facebook site specific to Ark Royal. There will be plenty of photos from the more recent Ark Royals but possibly some from the older versions
If you're hoping to find his Service Records the https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/ may be able to help.
 

Pg41562

Newbie
Can I piggy back On this thread? . Any advice on how to Find out about able seaman eric gosling P/jx347431 hms comus.

Thanks
Paul
 

soleil

War Hero
does anyone have any pictures or details of the ark royal company of marines around 47 to 54 and where can i get hold of my fathers service record if i do not know when he took the shilling

This is the link you need to apply for your father's Service Record, ms:

 

Pg41562

Newbie
Thanks for information, I dont have his full DOB, thought his service number would find him easy but to no avail.
 

Pg41562

Newbie
I know from his marriage certificate he was 21 yrs of age in 1944 and was an able seaman on the hms comus. His gave his ID as P/JX347431
 
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soleil

War Hero
I know from his marriage certificate he was 21 yrs of age in 1944 and was an able seaman on the hms comus. His gave his ID as P/JX34743.

That will explain it then.

It's a common misapprehension that the details are available online for anyone who has served in the Armed Forces; it's something which has been fuelled by popular programmes showing genealogists producing pages of information with a couple of clicks on a laptop.

With people who served in the First World War, you can often see their records via the National Archives' website or sites like Ancestry because records from that period have been released; records for service after roughly the mid 1920s haven't been. They are kept in a secure unit in Derbyshire (along with various other files) and are accessed when applications are made to have copies of them, generally from the families of the people on the records.

Are you researching Eric because he is on your family tree?
 

Pg41562

Newbie
He would be my paternal grandfather but my father nor our family ever knew him. We believe him to be born in Macclesfield as he was also married there. He may have remarried in 1950. That's all I can Find so far. Thanks for your help.
 

soleil

War Hero
He would be my paternal grandfather but my father nor our family ever knew him. We believe him to be born in Macclesfield as he was also married there. He may have remarried in 1950. That's all I can Find so far. Thanks for your help.

The fact that he married in Macclesfield suggests that this was where his fiancee lived, as the tradition at the time would have been for women to have been married 'from their parents' house'.

The likelihood is that he came from Cheshire or a nearby county, which is how he is likely to have met his wife, but may not have come from Macclesfield specifically.

For research for this period, I usually revert to the 1939 Register of England and Wales to see where someone was living then.
 

Pg41562

Newbie
Iv tried to find him On a census but to no avail. He married my paternal grandmother, a girl From Northern Ireland over for work. They had two children but a short marriage.
 

soleil

War Hero
Iv tried to find him On a census but to no avail. He married my paternal grandmother, a girl From Northern Ireland over for work. They had two children but a short marriage.

There is a possible match for him on the 1939 Census living in Boston Lincs. That person's date of birth was September 30th 1923; as his marriage was in the 4th quarter of 1944, this would have meant that he was 21 at the time of his marriage.
 

soleil

War Hero
For what it's worth, I would be inclined to apply for Eric's Service Record using the details you already have.

The fact that you have his Service Number will be paramount. You can take a chance with the date of birth section, try just putting '1923' in that section.


 

Pg41562

Newbie
I found him on a census and got his Dob 23/09/23. The form you linked asks for death certificate? Is this a must? I haven't found it yet?
 

soleil

War Hero
I found him on a census and got his Dob 23/09/23. The form you linked asks for death certificate? Is this a must? I haven't found it yet?

Yes, you're right, I've looked at the 1939 Register of England and Wales again and can see him now. There's a mis-spelling on the transcription and he is listed as Gasling rather than Gosling.

It seems that you are quite correct in the idea that he came from Macclesfield. There is a good chance that the following details in the Births Index are for him:


Name:Eric Gosling
Registration Date:Oct 1923
[Nov 1923]
[Dec 1923]
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District:Macclesfield
Inferred County:Cheshire
Mother's Maiden Name:Wood
Volume Number:8a
Page Number:197
 
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