What are we supposed to do now?

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  1. Due to all the cuts that the Navy has taken recently, I'm sure most of you are aware that we seem to be a redundant force at the moment. I was really hoping to get deployed later this year as part of the SeaRes, FPGRM, or whatever we are called this week. However it seems we are no longer wanted! Gutted!

    As I finish uni in a few weeks I really want to put my training I've been doing to good use, before I try my luck on the AIB. I deem it to be a massive waste to simply leave the RNR and start training all over again. I also think that spending a period, full time in an operational environment will give me a good deal of experience when I come round to sit the board.

    Does anyone know who I have to chat to to find a job somewhere. I have asked in unit and the response seems to be "there isn't anything." However stubborn, as I am, I believe there has to be something, somewhere! Be it FTRS in an out of role position (driving or something), Afghan gash hand, short term billet at sea, long term billet at sea, all ideas welcome.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. Purple_twiglet

    Purple_twiglet War Hero Moderator

    "Due to all the cuts that the Navy has taken recently, I'm sure most of you are aware that we seem to be a redundant force at the moment. "

    Try telling that to the large number of RNR personnel deployed at present. More importantly if the RNR is redundant, why didnt the RN scrap it in the SDSR? Mainly because it provides niche roles at low cost and more importantly 10% of Service manpower.


    " I was really hoping to get deployed later this year as part of the SeaRes, FPGRM, or whatever we are called this week. However it seems we are no longer wanted! Gutted!"

    That is not the case - the RN is providing a capability that it should have done several years ago, but instead chose to rely on the RNR to fill. It is not a slight on the RNR, it is the RN finally generating manpower to meet its requirements.

    " also think that spending a period, full time in an operational environment will give me a good deal of experience when I come round to sit the board."

    Not really - Pretty much anyone who passes without service background has done so without an Op Tour. It makes no difference at all -you'd be better advised to go do some commercial CLM training rather than a random rating job somewhere.

    " I have asked in unit and the response seems to be "there isn't anything." "

    Thats because for an AB with no deep skills, or specialisation there isn't anything at the moment. You have highly limited professional skills outside of your own branch and the RN has no need of them right now. Unfortunately the slots in A'stan are linked to people with deep professional or branch experience at all levels. The general 'dogsbody' role is more commonly seen at SO3 level. Right now the RNR is looking to fill posts 6 months - 1 year out - its really unlikely that anything will show up at short notice that you can do. Top marks for being keen (I wish more were like you) but you have got to the point in life where we cant' easily use your skills - either hang around for a few years, or try the TA as a grunt.
     
  3. Even with the TA you would be looking at a bit of a wait I fear. People I stay in touch with from my old unit are having a lil difficulty getting deployed and they have been in some time and done most of their courses to qualify. The only ones that seem to have had no difficulties are those with trades that are useful to the sapper units out there or those who have their wings or green lid. Maybe you should just apply for the RN as an officer as soon as you can. Might pay off better than scrounging for experience that might be beyong reach. I hope what ever you choose it all works out for you
     
  4. Cheers Twiglet and Scouse. I'll probably just get my application rolling if nothing pops up within the next few months. Still seems a bit of a waste of training but hey ho that's life. still had some cracking experiences with the RNR. A laugh a minute, awesome weekends etc.
     
  5. Timberlake

    Which subject have you been studying at Uni?

    What are you going to do once you have graduated?
     
  6. I'm just finishing 3rd Philosophical studies. (yea go on have a good laugh!) Doing my dissertation on the Philosophy of Leadership and last year my project was on the morality of Op Herrick. I was hoping to deploy once I finish, however now I think I'm gonna go AWW officer, due to the lack of deployments required of the RNR.
     
  7. Purple_twiglet

    Purple_twiglet War Hero Moderator

    "due to the lack of deployments required of the RNR"

    Not a fair statement there - the RNR is phenomenally busy right now with a significant chunk of manpower either deployed, deploying or demobilising.

    You are not required at the moment as you are too junior to be able to do any meaningful role - thats the key difference!
     
  8. Yes P_T,

    But surely his dissertation could be useful out there..............:tp:
     
  9. 'The Morality of Op Herrick'? Wow, deep.

    Well, best of luck anyhow :)
     
  10. Ha ha thought my degree might be met with some disdain! lol, I'm well used to it. I actually got my idea for my dissertation from a CLM brief I was at, at HMS Calliope last year. Interesting stuff the different styles of leadership. There's definitely certain style preferred by Ruperts and others preferred by club swingers, that's for sure...
     
  11. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Ta.

    Don't mind if I do. :toothy3:
     
  12. Do you mean that you will apply for Warfare Officer on a full-time basis?
     
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    I fear the post dinner philosophising on military ethics will be much poorer for his absence.
     
  14. Drop SO2 SEAMAN a PM. If there's anything out there he'll know about it.

    Unfortunately they can't just create roles for people. With all the spare bods hanging around from the t22's and ARK the RN are better off using them than bringing in reservists - the clue, after all, is in our title.

    We're reservists. If they need us, they will call.
     
  15. Soleil, yea full time. Cheers Trehorn will drop him a PM. Is he a regular liason between reserves and regs or something? Somebody suggested I might badger someone with that role.
     
  16. SO2 is now the SO1 of the RNR WARSEA branch.

    If there is any availablity for a reservist deployment he will know about it.
     
  17. Do you perhaps think that's because each group is trying to achieve different things by different methods?

    Quite clearly, you have no real experience in how to lead people if you think that there is one style which suits any one person or group of people.
     
  18. There are some slight inaccuracies in some of the above posts! The WarSeaRes Branch is being used, and will continue to be used. All that has happened is that the Regulars have opted to use their own manpower for a short window whilst they manage the redundancy pipeline. The WarSeaRes branch still has 1 more small mobilisation this year (all places currently filled, but have you spoken to your RFPO and made sure he has told SO2 that you are vailable?
    The branch will then mobilse again in mid to late 2012 (depending on your training state).
    If you are at Trained Strength, get hold of your RFPO and tell him that you are keen to go asap. If the regulars have a gap, and the SO2 has an exceptionally willing (and trained) volunteer, you might find some paperwork inbound.
    Good luck
     

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