sweeney said:
Farking hell! close all water tight doors and hatches! we should call this xenophobe ration after whats been on on here recently!
Let me get this straight... This is england we're talking about yeah? part of britain? I just want to be sure before I start...
points being:
1) Left wing b*****ds? Whats that about then? Is socialism a bad thing? Is democratic choiuce a bad thing? They sorted the "socialist alternative" out in Nazi Germany by pushing them up a chimney and this country went to war to allow people what to think for themselves and not be persecuted.
2) christian society where non christians aren't picked on? Whats that then? Do we have to go to church? Are we having christian views and rules? Or are we having the bastardised post excommunication of Henry VIII version?
Sweeney,
Most English law is grounded upon Christian moral principles, which is why is can seem so un-liberal at times. Actually until 1987 when lots of obsolete mediæval laws were finally repealled
en masse, church attendance on Sunday followed by archery practice was compulsory for all adult males. It wasn't enforced of course, except perhaps in the recent past by the RN, but it could have been! We are of course still subject to Christian jurisprudence: our legal definitions are still largely grounded in theological basic concepts (topoi). For example marriage (historically a Pagan institution - Christ encouraged his followers to abandon their families to follow Him) is between a man and woman. That definition is wholly religious, not rational. Indeed strictly speaking, in English law marriage is a Christian institution, so that non-Christian unions are arguably not real marriages at all - but this is legal semantics here. For example in England and Wales it is still
illegal to have a Humanist wedding, though legal in Scotland, despite the fact that this violates the Human Rights Act 1998. The relevant Minister (herself a Christian) recently told Humanists that the Church of England must grant its consent before Humanists are allowed to have Humanist weddings!
So you are quite right - Christians are indeed allowed to decide who is entitled to certain basic rights!
Finally, Christian, like Muslim and Jewish scripture, puts God's law abouve Man made law. In other words, all are theologically opposed to the primacy of democracy since it places man-made law above God's law. Democracy is incompatible with theocratic legal principles - hence the need for
torchlight processions outside Parliament... which rather reminds me of the torchlight processions outside to Reichstag in 1933... Have you ever read
Mein Kampf Sweeney? Hitler justifies his anti-Semitism and other beliefs by repeated quotations from the New Testament. So much for him being an athiest!
Steve.