Wearing of Jump wings

#1
Hi all,
I have recently completed 5 jumps with a US army jump master. My boss at work (WO1 P coy) tells me i am entitled to wear my light bulb. Does the Navy have an equivalent ?? What are the regs on it ??
Thanks,
Fez73
 
#3
I worked with an SA that had wings on his Nos 1 cuff. He had not done P coy but had done 5 jumps on AT. The Guys at work have just done their AT and did some jumps and have there light bulbs on there cuffs. They dont get jump pay as its not a trade, just jump trained
 

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#4
Hi all,
I have recently completed 5 jumps with a US army jump master. My boss at work (WO1 P coy) tells me i am entitled to wear my light bulb. Does the Navy have an equivalent ?? What are the regs on it ??
Thanks,
Fez73
No you can't. You are only entitled to wear a light bulb (if they still let you wear the thing) if you've been through the Parachute Training School at Brize Norton. Your boss at work has got his wires crossed. What on earth is a WO1 P Coy anyway?
 

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I worked with an SA that had wings on his Nos 1 cuff. He had not done P coy but had done 5 jumps on AT. The Guys at work have just done their AT and did some jumps and have there light bulbs on there cuffs. They dont get jump pay as its not a trade, just jump trained
No. This has been covered loads of times before.

You are not entitled to wear any Parachute qualification badges if you have jumped as part of AT.
 

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#6
Let's get this clear from the start. Passing P Company does not entitle you to wear wings. It entitles you to wear a maroon beret. The only way you can wear wings etc is if you have attended the course at No 1 Parachute School at Brize. To get on this course, you need to have done either of the following;

P Company
Commando Course
SF Selection (hills phase IIRC)
RAF Equivalent whatever that is

Have i missed any out?
 
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#7
Let's get this clear from the start. Passing P Company does not entitle you to wear wings. It entitles you to wear a maroon beret. The only way you can wear wings etc is if you have attended the course at No 1 Parachute Schoole at Brize. To get on this course, you need to have done either of the following;

P Company
Commando Course
SF Selection (hills phase IIRC)
RAF Equivalent whatever that is

Have i missed any out?
Being assigned to 16X entitles you to wear a maroon beret.
 

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Being assigned to 16X entitles you to wear a maroon beret.
Agreed. Big bone of contention that one. In the days of 5 Airborne Bde, you could only wear the issued shite one if you hadn't passed P Coy. Those that had passed wore the leather banded one. Why they haven't learned form the Royal Marines is beyond me. Pass the course, wear the lid.

However, P Coy only entitles you to the beret.

Edited to add; Not all units in 16 Air Assault wear the maroon lid.
 
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My bold: only if in a PID (position/role) that attracts parachute pay, not everyone with parachute wings is paid for having them.
Yep, agreed. But, as stated, a civilian parachute course, conducted by the Pope of PCoy, doesn't entitle the individual to wear a miltary parachute qualification badge on their uniform, as I'm sure all bar the OP would agree.

That said, I've categorically no doubt there are plenty of people serving that wear the badge of a military qualification they don't hold - much the same as there are people who go to the Cenotaph every year bedecked in medals they never earned.
 

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So how do you earn the light bulb ?
The light bulb was given to those that had attended the course and were posted to a unit that was not an airborne/parachute role. I believe, however, that SPAG wear the lightbulb as they are not entitled to wear wings. To be honest, i've not seen anyone wearing a lightbulb for years.
 
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