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Warfare Spec cleaning

OptiMystic

Badgeman
Hey Guys,

Something that's been coming up a lot lately (that was obviously not gone into in a great deal of detail with the careers officer) is the amount of cleaning with being a Warfare Spec.

Alot of the people I'd spoken to hadn't really said much about it, but some of the stuff I'm hearing at the moment makes it sound like you're a glorified cleaner. Is this true? To what extent? I have no probs with cleaning, but I don't want that to be my main activity.
 

brendan498

War Hero
well optimistic if they had told you that then you would not have joined,the chefs are busy cooking, clankys busy maintaining engines so the warfare specialist are not fighting wars every day, so its cleaning
 

danny

War Hero
yeah cleaning and painting. ship needs looking after all the time. the ops room dosent need to be fully manned when just cruising. So WS or dabbers as they are known to all the upperdeck maintenance. (well most of it)
 

slim

War Hero
Now this is a much more sensible topic than which iron to buy.
How about all you recent joiners who have finished part two training and are on your first sea going draft let all the newbies know how you spend your working hours?
ALL branches do cleaning but some do more than others.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
A very good point, everyone cleans, be under no illusion. All the trade careers publications & DVDs make this clear.

When you have, for example 250 people living in close-proximity, cleanliness is absolutely essential to maintain as close to sterile & liveable environment as possible.

It's true to say a warship is probably cleaner than an average hospital and you will note that although 90% of the air is re-cycled on a warship, apart from the fact we all catch colds off each-other, we seldom see outbreaks of the horrible stuff that seems to be very popular elsewhere.

Disappointing though it maybe, we do not fly teams of cleaners in to clean up after you like your Mum does- we have to do it ourselves. Often this is a very painful process for those that have been waited upon hand & foot by their parents. In the RN & RM, you clean up after yourself & we ALL clean communal areas. Chefs don't wash your cutlery & plates up for you, unlike your parents- we ALL take turns.

Often the Warfare (the biggest department onboard) consider themselves hard done-by, neglecting to notice that whilst they clean & maintain the visible areas, those who work in the less visible areas do likewise. A large part of the Warfare "part of ship" is on upper-deck areas & is therefore open to the elements. As your average warship costs something like around £1Million per metre, it would be somewhat remiss if we let it rust away so we carry out upper deck maintenance by preventing oxidisation (rust/corrosion) by oiling or greasing exposed moving metal surfaces or by sealing out the elements by painting them. The oil, grease & paint frequently wears off & is cheaper to replace than the metal is, so we re-apply it.

In short, if you think someone is going to clean up after you, think again & be prepared to play your part.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
danny said:
As the saying goes JOIN THE NAVY CLEAN THE WORLD

Or "Bring yer Mum to do it for you".

It's surprising how many people feel hard done by because someone doesn't run around after them anymore.


When all's said & done, it's a job, not an amusement park incorporating a baby-sitting service.
 
When the 23s were being designed, the buzz was that originally there was going to be no JRs onboard.

Someone then noticed that the SRs would have to do all the scrubbing out, so that was why they shoehorned the JRs messdecks in.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Streaky said:
When the 23s were being designed, the buzz was that originally there was going to be no JRs onboard.

Someone then noticed that the SRs would have to do all the scrubbing out, so that was why they shoehorned the JRs messdecks in.

Unadulterated codswallop.

How do you suppose the JR's would become Senior Rates on that type of ship?

Keep 'em coming!
 
Notice the word "buzz", Ninja.

I joined the Norfolk at Yarows, out of build.

I was WE, and as half the kit wasn't fitted, we scrubbed out.

Every day.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Streaky said:
Notice the word "buzz", Ninja.

I joined the Norfolk at Yarows, out of build.

I was WE, and as half the kit wasn't fitted, we scrubbed out.

Every day.


I'm humbled, bless.

But not in the afternoons eh?

It can only be a "gen dit" then.


Ninja_Stoker said:
It's surprising how many people feel hard done by because someone doesn't run around after them anymore.
 

brendan498

War Hero
you forgot about the heads ninja a true recruiter

Ninja_Stoker said:
A very good point, everyone cleans, be under no illusion. All the trade careers publications & DVDs make this clear.

When you have, for example 250 people living in close-proximity, cleanliness is absolutely essential to maintain as close to sterile & liveable environment as possible.

It's true to say a warship is probably cleaner than an average hospital and you will note that although 90% of the air is re-cycled on a warship, apart from the fact we all catch colds off each-other, we seldom see outbreaks of the horrible stuff that seems to be very popular elsewhere.

Disappointing though it maybe, we do not fly teams of cleaners in to clean up after you like your Mum does- we have to do it ourselves. Often this is a very painful process for those that have been waited upon hand & foot by their parents. In the RN & RM, you clean up after yourself & we ALL clean communal areas. Chefs don't wash your cutlery & plates up for you, unlike your parents- we ALL take turns.

Often the Warfare (the biggest department onboard) consider themselves hard done-by, neglecting to notice that whilst they clean & maintain the visible areas, those who work in the less visible areas do likewise. A large part of the Warfare "part of ship" is on upper-deck areas & is therefore open to the elements. As your average warship costs something like around £1Million per metre, it would be somewhat remiss if we let it rust away so we carry out upper deck maintenance by preventing oxidisation (rust/corrosion) by oiling or greasing exposed moving metal surfaces or by sealing out the elements by painting them. The oil, grease & paint frequently wears off & is cheaper to replace than the metal is, so we re-apply it.

In short, if you think someone is going to clean up after you, think again & be prepared to play your part.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
brendan498 said:
you forgot about the heads ninja a true recruiter

Oops, you're right!

Translated to civilian speak: "You have to clean the lavvies too".

And, for Engineering Technician (Marine Engineers):

Don't think that once you've flushed it down the pan that you may not see it again, from time to time you have to work on sewerage systems too.

(Yum, yum).
 

brendan498

War Hero
cleaning is a spiritual experience you quite often hear dabbers saying im bored to death,or jesus, or oh my god, you have to remember ipods where invented for such tasks,even Arthur cleans
 
Ninja_Stoker said:
brendan498 said:
you forgot about the heads ninja a true recruiter

Oops, you're right!

Translated to civilian speak: "You have to clean the lavvies too".

And, for Engineering Technician (Marine Engineers):

Don't think that once you've flushed it down the pan that you may not see it again, from time to time you have to work on sewerage systems too.

(Yum, yum).

Hoo Hoo!

Just wait until you have to split the pipes on those STPs!

Carry on, Stokey Boy!
 

OptiMystic

Badgeman
Ninja_Stoker said:
In short, if you think someone is going to clean up after you, think again & be prepared to play your part.

Don't misunderstand, I have no problem with cleaning - some of the spec's I'd spoken to make it sound like you do nothing else sometimes so I just wanted to clarify.

Cheers for the input guys, very helpful : )
 
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