Warfare Communicator?

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  1. Anyone on here in this position and can tell me if it is recommended? I was up at the AFCO and they where saying it has no waiting list to get in. Wouldn't mind persuing a career in this area. If you have any useful information for me don't be scared to drop me a PM :twisted:


    WATP
    Jonny
     
  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Warfare Communicator (Communications Information Specialist or Radio Operator in old money) is indeed a shortage category trade.

    The job entails working shifts (watches) as do most, and requires a slightly higher Recruiting Test score than Warfare Specialist, Logistician [Catering Sevices][D] (Steward in old money), Naval Airman[Aircraft Handler] or Seaman Specialist - hence the shortage. It's certainly a transferable trade with regard the telecommunications industry & as with all ratings jobs within the service there are menial aspects. (ie: we don't fly Mum out to clean-up after you, wash your clothes, do your ironing or clean the bathroom).
     
  3. the_matelot

    the_matelot War Hero Moderator

    You don't? 8O

    Stuff that for a game of matelots. I quit! :D

    Jonny, it is a interesting job but don't make the mistake of joining a particular branch solely on the basis that the waiting time was less than other branches. There are NO guarantees that you will get to re-trade to another specialisation if you don't like a particular role despite what a minority of Careers Advisers say in AFCO's.

    (Before N-S or Supermario say it doesn't happen, it does. It shouldn't though but some CA's still do it. I see it time and time again and I'm involved with Phase 2 training and it happened to me so I'm speaking from experience! I was lucky though-I got to do what I wanted although it took a lot longer than it should have and I was VERY lucky to get manning clearance.)
     
  4. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Deary me, we could go round in circles on this one & it is indeed a familiar claim that Divisional Officers find it inconceivable that those stating such claims maybe telling porkies.

    Yes, hundreds of individuals will claim their Careers Adviser told them to join in one job & simply transfer afterwards. Of course they will - simply because they will not admit that they made a cock-up themselves & tried to join quickly in a shortage category trade.

    It is indeed true to say that untrained ratings on temporary loan to AFCOs may well decide to recount tales of those who joined the service in one trade & transferred, but absolutely & categorically no trained careers adviser would dream of making such an assurance because they would lose their job.

    The Attestation Form, (MOD Form 3049) on which EVERY individual has explained to them at interview, pre-entry brief & prior to physically "signing-on" states:

    "The Careers Adviser has explained the jobs available to me & understand that once I have joined there is no possibility whatsoever of transferring trades."

    Sadly there are still those that prefer to believe the tales of those who have completed 9 weeks training & unproven service against those with 20-30 years service experience.

    Ho-hum, there's no convincing some...
     
  5. Cheers for the information people. I am just keeping my options opened for the time being sono definate decision yet. I am now looking seriously at the submarine branch. Hmmmmm


    WATP
    Jonny
     
  6. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    The basic advice, is make sure you join the service in a trade that suits you.

    Rest assured the AFCO staff have no incentive, cash or otherwise, to make you join in a job that doesn't suit you.

    There's part of me that thinks we should be outraged, incandescent, hacked-off & severely miffed by those that think we try to hoodwink individuals into joining in a trade that's undermanned because we get more money, an OBE or promotion (we don't), however it's satisfying knowing that I speak the truth despite the ignorance of some that severely irk those of us that do not call into question the professional ability of other service trades.
     
  7. research, research research and Google
     
  8. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Good point...research.

    It certainly doesn't happen today, however:

    Presumably the "time & time again" it is claimed by the trainee, the relevant AFCO verifies this time & time again also, because obviously the complaint is correctly investigated and steps are taken to stamp out this alleged practice.

    Here's a little tip for those that persist in perpetrating the myth:

    When a trainee next claims that they were told they could transfer trades, ask them which AFCO stated this & who their careers adviser was. Click on the AFCO link below & ring the relevant AFCO, whilst the trainee is still present and ask their Careers Adviser if they stated this - watch, listen & learn.
     
  9. Just so nobody says "But Ninja Stoker said I can branch change!"

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    It says:
    "Declaration by candidate continued

    I certify that:
    a) The Careers Adviser has informed me of the various branches and specialisations that I can enter and that once I have entered there is no possibility of changing my mind and try to transger to a differenct branch.However, I understand that the service may transfer me to any branch that assumes the functions of the branch which I first entered. I am content with my branch of choice and have chosen to enter as:"

    My underlined :thumright:
     
  10. Did that more than once when I was a DO to Phase 2's, funny how their stories used to change to "I thought he said" or "I don't remember exactly" etc. When I started the DO draft I was told that the first thing the lads will tell you is a lie, the rest take with a pinch of salt :lol:
     
  11. I can't see how the AFCO guy would have any reason to persuade/force anyone to join any branch surely their not double glazing sales men and work on comision I can't see any benifet for them saying you can transfer after your in?! Sounds like people just change their minds and the AFCOis the easist to blame.
     
  12. It always hit me as a branch I would join if I could turn the clock back, after seeing them with their cheers easy MCO watches as I dug out in the gloom room!

    But seriously, it's a good branch to get into if you like your IT and fidgeting about with computers as that's what it mostly consists of these days after all the tactical stuff got given to the Sea Specs. I just got back from a draft where I was a communicator for 6 months (before you ask, I have no idea how I ended up in that situation!) and I thoroughly enjoyed my time doing it - listening to fit (well, they sounded fit) American chicks on the radio is a good way to spend a deployment!

    In regards to when you leave, all the comms SRs I've ever met seemed to have all qualifications coming out of their ears, so it's good on that front too!

    We are indeed the people
     
  13. Brilliant:D:D


    WATP
    Jonny
     

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