WAR IN IRAQ - THE REAL FACE OF WAR

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I was of two minds whether to post this link here. I will remove it if requested to do so. If the poll if negative I will remove it after 7 days if not sooner.

However I thought it might be worth posting - it depicts the realities of the current war in Iraq. It is very unpleasant. It shows suicide bombings and the effects of those attacks - the things that are censored by our media so that the public don't get to see what happens to soldiers and human beings generally in war. If the public saw this sort of thing on the news servicemen might get treated with a bit more respect by a cynical public, and might get treated better generally!

I personally think every apologist for suicide bombers in this country should be forced to watch it. I also think Fred Phelps, a US preacher who has been staging offensive protests at the funerals of US servicemen killed in this conflict - should be forced to watch it with his congregation and be televised doing so.

The video is 16m 21s long. The last few minutes are especially harrowing!

[align=center]WARNING - THIS LINKS TO A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE WHICH IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC, SHOCKING AND SICKENING!!![/align]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcH4CnKVD-g
 
Always_a_Civvy said:
I was of two minds whether to post this link here. I will remove it if requested to do so. If the poll if negative I will remove it after 7 days if not sooner.

However I thought it might be worth posting - it depicts the realities of the current war in Iraq. It is very unpleasant. It shows suicide bombings and the effects of those attacks - the things that are censored by our media so that the public don't get to see what happens to soldiers and human beings generally in war. If the public saw this sort of thing on the news servicemen might get treated with a bit more respect by a cynical public, and might get treated better generally!

I personally think every apologist for suicide bombers in this country should be forced to watch it. I also think Fred Phelps, a US preacher who has been staging offensive protests at the funerals of US servicemen killed in this conflict - should be forced to watch it with his congregation and be televised doing so.

The video is 16m 21s long. The last few minutes are especially harrowing!

[align=center]WARNING - THIS LINKS TO A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE WHICH IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC, SHOCKING AND SICKENING!!![/align]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcH4CnKVD-g

I think the way things are going YOUTUBE will be getting pulled soon.

You name it is on there.

In Northern Ireland they are looking for some sicko who put his bit on biting the head of live mice.

Problem with live atrocities on the screen is after a while the human race eventually get accustomed to it and watch it while having tea. What is real and what is fake with the movies about these days that kids canna watch but they do.

No wonder we are hearing about murders each and every day and usually the assailant is getting younger each time. With having a warped mind and warped parents no doubt.
 
Backpacker1uk said:
I think the way things are going YOUTUBE will be getting pulled soon.

You name it is on there.

In Northern Ireland they are looking for some sicko who put his bit on biting the head of live mice.

Problem with live atrocities on the screen is after a while the human race eventually get accustomed to it and watch it while having tea. What is real and what is fake with the movies about these days that kids canna watch but they do.

No wonder we are hearing about murders each and every day and usually the assailant is getting younger each time. With having a warped mind and warped parents no doubt.

I understand your viewpoint and share it regarding the frequent showing of shocking images. In fact if this sort of stuff was televised you would probably kill quite a few people with heart problems off. My point really is that people often do not appreciate the consequences of war. They have Hollywood stylised versions of what it involves. Had Bush or Blair served in the forces and seen this sort of thing I seriously doubt they would have so readily found an excuse for invading Iraq, however exasperated they were with her persistant violation of UN rulings, etc. The general public might also be less sanguine towards politicians calling for a war to solve every little problem were they fully conversant with the human consequences. Most have no idea.

Personally I felt physically sick after watching this. This morning I woke up and felt sick. I keep seeing those final images of skeletons and people dessicated by extreme heat, reminding me of the consequences of people caught in pyroclastic flows - I have seen some horrible things over the years but those images were especially haunting.

For those here who condone the killing of our servicemen or those on both Right and Left who are apologists for terrorism against Israel, for example - this should be compulsory viewing - they should be spared nothing.
 
I found that video extremely harrowing, I freely admit I was close to tears when that guy from the helicopter (i think) was shot. It just shows you how evil these vermin are and makes me want to drop sarin on the whole damn area.

rant ends

stab
 
It is sickening to watch, but thats whats happning over there in real life. This aint a Hollywood action flick where people suffer a felsh wound - our people are dying every day in the most horrible circumstances and inevitably leaving grieving families behind.

We shouldnt shy away from it, bury out heads in the sand and pretend all is fine. The general public and in particular these fekin muppet anti-war protestors need to see this and a few beheading videos to realise who the bad guys are here.

Sorry for the rant but this topic really grips my sh*t. STAB Im with you mate - wipe the bstrds out!!
 

imom1406

War Hero
My worry is that it'll do for Iraq and Afghanistan, what the TV reporting did to Vietnam. i.e. mobilise public opinion against the troops and the war.

Majority of the public believe that are troops are the dogs bollocks and won't want any more killed, and the Anti war lobby will push to withdraw because of the atrocities.

There is a job still to be done, whether we are being served well politically and we are going about it the right way is still up for debate. But the job has to be done, it can't be abandoned. Jihadists will see it as a victory, a power vacuum will follow and the fight will be brought to our doorstep ...even more than it is now. And 1,000's of troops will have died in vain!
 
imom1406 said:
My worry is that it'll do for Iraq and Afghanistan, what the TV reporting did to Vietnam. i.e. mobilise public opinion against the troops and the war.

Majority of the public believe that are troops are the dogs bollocks and won't want any more killed, and the Anti war lobby will push to withdraw because of the atrocities.

There is a job still to be done, whether we are being served well politically and we are going about it the right way is still up for debate. But the job has to be done, it can't be abandoned. Jihadists will see it as a victory, a power vacuum will follow and the fight will be brought to our doorstep ...even more than it is now. And 1,000's of troops will have died in vain!

I conceed that point imom. Perhaps something for later?
 
stabradop said:
Cheers spenny mate.

I hope noone minds put i posted this on arrse as I think they should know about it. Have a good mind to let the papers know, just don't know which.

stab

http://www.arrse.com/cpgn2/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=46035#839386

I have no objection Stab. Personally I agree with Spenny, bar the dropping CW on the place. I wouldn't wish the effects of nerve agent on anyone, especially the long-term effects when exposed to small doses!

Not sure about the limp-wristed liberals bit though. I'm socially liberal and gay! Bless you! I forgive you! :lol:
 
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