Wait Times

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  1. Hi all

    Due to the economy now, and all the redundancies being made to jobs and the MOD alike i was curiuos to know what sort of times a person would be waiting to join and get into recruit training for the navy, from literally walking through the door and speaking to a Careers officer to then getting a placement. Maybe ninja you could help with this question.

    In my case between 2011 and 2012 i was in the process for the Royal Marines passed my PRMC and was given a date for RT at Lympstone before then deciding to go to college and futher my education before making any huge steps. Now for me would the application be any quicker due to my records being on file or would it be the normal wait time for anyone just joining.

    Thanks

    Gaz
     
  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    On average it costs about £7K to process each application, when you include marketing, etc. Whilst the individual is under no obligation to join a 'checkered history' can affect future eligibility. Assuming you kept your AFCO informed, weren't consistently unreliable with numerous 'false starts' & didn't just disappear, then there shouldn't be a significant issue.

    Waiting-times are difficult to predict, particularly for those that have already applied previously, but in simplistic terms, if one your 'hypothetical triplet brothers' sat the test on the same day as you and applied for a particular RN branch from the outset and you switched branches to the same branch twelve months later, then he will be loaded onto a same branch intake ahead of you, together with all those who passed the test and applied for the same branch during that interim 12 months. But, if there's still places on that intake, you could both end-up joining together. Then again if you don't, it could be year before the next intake of of that branch.

    If the remaining triplet sat the test on the same day as you switched to that particular branch, also wishing to join the same branch, you would be allocated ahead of him. But if there's places on that intake, you could end-up with all three of you joining together on the same day. Then again if you don't, you could each join-up a year apart over three years, even though you all sat the test within a 12 month period.

    RN branches range from anything between 6 to 36-ish months at present and it also depends if you've scored high enough for your chosen branch, when you passed the test, the length of the previously dormant application, the number already applied for that branch, the numbers required and the number of training places available.

    Your AFCO are therefore best placed to give a more accurate answer as they will be aware of your individual circumstances.

    Good luck.
     
  3. Thanks for the quick reply Ninja

    I did keep in regular contact with my careers officer the first time round i was deffered due to a medical problem which now has been rectified and i did meet with the medical officer to show that i was all clear and he gave me the all clear for carrying on with the process which then meant doing another PRMC which was fine before going through with RT i got in contact with him and explained that i wanted to go back to college and get some qualifications behind myself. So i dont think i should be under any trouble there with recruiting again?

    Now with career progression, if remember correctly with the RM you needed to do 2 years before i chose a desired role in the Marines my choice being a mechanic, is it the same with the royal navy being 2 years and then doing your desired job role (Air Engineering Technician) or is it doing your basic training then doing the training for the job. Also i have no qualifications towards engineering, and i certainly dont think my course in Viticulture will help me with that haha will this be a problem, all this i did check on the website i just needed to double check.

    Sorry for all the questions

    cheers
     
  4. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    For RN you join direct into your chosen branch, undergo 10 weeks Initial Naval Training then go straight into branch training.
     
  5. Sp3

    Sp3

    Will you ever be given an indication on wait times from your recruiter for your specific branch? I just keep hearing horror stories of years-long waits and whilst I'd certainly prefer the Navy by far it's making the Army/RAF seem vastly quicker, would you say this is the case?
     
  6. OMM

    OMM War Hero

    My CA told me how long at my interview.
     
  7. I was told " you better get a job in the mean time" at my interview. I think that constitutes as my CA giving me an indication to where I am on the list.
     
  8. Sp3

    Sp3

    Is that entirely internal then? Would I have to go through the process up to that point in order to find out whether we're talking 3 months or 3 years for say, CT (I realise it's frowned upon to ask "WAIT TIMES 4 CT?" but I figure it's worth a shot).
     
  9. OMM

    OMM War Hero

    Your best bet is to compare with someone going for the same trade. Your waiting time starts on the day you sit your recruiting test.

    It just depends in your choice of trade.

    All he said to me at interview was, "I'm not 100% on the time but it will be months not years, definitely under 12 months" .... Then 2 weeks ago I got a date for 10 months time (9 now).
     
  10. i only waited 3 wks for a date :D
     
  11. I'm going in for CT and my AFCO gave me estimates of Feb/Oct 2014, I sat my RT in June 2012.

    Going to try and put the waiting time to good use and learn some trade specific skills if i can and get my fitness upto scratch of course :strong:
     
  12. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    As stated: ask your Careers Adviser (CA), not a bloke on the internet.

    The reason we no longer put waiting times in the public domain, as indicated in post 2, is because there are so many variables. Your CA knows all about you & is therefore better placed to give a more accurate answer.

    The RAF only process applications for branches that currently have vacancies on specific intakes. If you apply for a branch with no current vacancies, it will not be processed. The Navy manages expectations by taking applications for all branches, but is upfront & will inform you of expected waiting times. If you want to be a Chef or Chef Submariner right now, you can join before October but if you want a highly sought-after, over-subscribed job in a small branch in a specialist trade, guess what? Yep, more applicants than places available. Perhaps we should close over-subscribed branches to recruiting & simply deny the chance of an individual achieving a career aspiration.

    The Army has nearly 3 times the manpower of the Navy & correspondingly has a quicker throughput to match their rapid exodus. The Royal Marines, by contrast have nearly twice the average career length of their equivalent Army infantry counterpart....for those good enough. The Marines enjoy a very rapid selection process and it's possible to join in less than three months - but, the "average candidate" takes nearer 8 months because they delay their own application through lack of physical preparedness.
     
  13. What branch are you going for though?
     
  14. logistics ,2nd class chef
     
  15. All chef's are second class...waiting fo incoming :)
     
  16. what branch youre in?
     
  17. You mean what branch was I in.
     
  18. s/l/s ?. ....................
     
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  19. Sp3

    Sp3

    Thanks for your reply.

    Out of curiosity, how large is the RNavy Intelligence branch? The Army's is about 2,000 and the RAF's is about 1,200 (both public personnel numbers, if the Navy's isn't then I apologise).
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2013
  20. Army Intelligence?

    And chef is one of the shortest waiting times, or so I have been told
     

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