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  1. Can anyone please tell me what this refers to? Planning to join navy this year as an AET ( but after reading this site seriously reconsidering the navy now!! ) and someone said that WAFU's are not generally thought of as navy?
    Is the navy really in decline that much? is it really worth joining anymore.....? I just want a fun, hardworking and rewarding career? shall i look elsewhere?
  2. Krsbt, Wafu is just a term to describe a particular wing of the Navy, Fleet Air Arm.
    Wafus call the Seaman branch "Fishheads". Submariners call the surface Navy "Skimmers". The individual branches also have nick names, and so on.
    Don't let it bother you.
    Join the branch that you feel you will be happier with.
    I did 22 years as a Wafu and did plenty of sea time and have lots of General service oppo's. Its just banter.
  3. A WAFU translated = Wet And ******* Useless
  4. Thanks for your reply. So im assuming that you enjoyed ure years as an AET? I was going to go for Weapons engineering then thought you get the best of both worlds as AET. Great engineering with chances to serve ashore and at sea. IS there good opps for promotion as an AET? If i join i want to make the most of it and serve for as long as possible! Also see a few places which seems is rare now..?
    MAny thanks Kris
  5. Kris like I said in an earlier post with a little info you can " manage your sea time".

    Lets start at the beginning.

    There are 2 sorts of AET the Fastrack ( a very loose form of Artificer) caters for the more academically clever rating, you can be selected from your initial trade training at Sultan do circa 2 years in the fleet (air station) then return for LAET course ( 12 to 18 months I think ), then more fleet time and return to Sultan ( maybe RAF Cosford) for POAET`s course of soon to be 6 months. If not selected at initial training you can be Fastracked off LAET course( but selection from the field no longer exists at the moment). Thus you can get to POAET in circa 5 years.

    Non Fastrack AET go through the process, but the process is slower for them as they compete with other non Fastrack AET`s for selection through appraisal.

    Also there are 2 trades Mechanical and Avionics when you get to LAET level as an AET you do both (but there will probably be discussions to go back to 2 trades formally 3 trades)

    Mechanical. Airframes(bodywork), engines transmissions, flying controls, undercarriage.

    Avionics stuff with electramatricity. Radar, power supplies things that go Bang.

    Thus in summary are you good at Maths/Science. When I did my Tiffy training in the mid to late 80`s it was like A level material but to an O level standard. I had done A level Maths Physics so thus it was piss easy for me.

    My advice sign up for a Maths course at a local college, or try the open university, they do a range of maths courses, and a sort of test that identifies at what level you should start.

    If your not mathematically minded still try AET you may find the Non Fastrack route is for you.
  6. Just a word of warning on maths courses, make sure you do one aimed at your needs. Real maths for mathemetitians is very different to the maths engineers use.

    I was not suggesting he started with a level 3 stats course.
    MU120 or MST121 I had in mind.
  8. And I was trying to reinforce that, it is all to easy for some lecturer to promote his specialty rather than what you really need for the job. A number of establishments are now offering proper maths for engineers courses now for this very reason.
  9. chieftiff

    chieftiff War Hero Moderator

    Did someone mention Mathematics? my favourite subject. To successfully pass the AET entrance exam you need a slightly higher maths pass in your entrance exam than other trades- not allowed to tell you what that slightly higher pass mark is I am afraid- but a good pass at GCSE will easily see you through. The same goes for LAET course, a good GCSE pass will be enough to equip you with the necessary skills. As for POAET course the mathematics for this is based on John Birds' book Higher Engineering Mathematics, often referred to as H level at colleges nowadays: link- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Higher-Engineering-Mathematics-J-O-Bird/dp/0750662662

    It is not necessary to be competent at this level of maths before you go on course but it would make life very easy if you were. Alternatively the OU course M120 as Copenhagen suggests would be a good founding for POAET course.
  10. Seadog

    Seadog War Hero Moderator


    you'll find what you need to know on the RN recruiting site. The link goes straight to the Air Engineering page.

    Air Engineering

    Don't worry about being called a WAFU. As Roofrat says, there are unflattering nicknames for every branch.

    I'd still recommend joining. The Mob may be in decline but you can still get a lot out of it and put a lot into it. Good luck.
  11. thanks to you all! i will read responses later! very much appreciated KRis
  12. Go for it and don't worry about the micky takers as they will become your best friends!!
  13. best of luck - whatever trade u choice!
  14. Having done it recently, the maths offered at Sultan is more than adequate, and the instructors are more than willing to offer extra tuition if required, so no need to spend your own money on maths courses that might not be what you need. The reason for the extra tuition being offered is that some of the old school LAEM's are going through POAET's course and some find it easier than others. This means the staff are more than willing to help. The thing to be aware of is that only the top 2-3 % of applicants are accepted onto the Fast-track scheme, therefore a hard-working mentality is essential. My advice is to go for the fast track, but if you don't make it, you still have a great career to look forward to. hope this helps
  15. Grubber wrote

    The thing to be aware of is that only the top 2-3 % of applicants are accepted onto the Fast-track scheme, therefore a hard-working mentality is essential. My advice is to go for the fast track, but if you don't make it, you still have a great career to look forward to. hope this helps

    So if 2-3% are accepted for fast track don`t you think it would be a good idea to be prepared by being a maths smart ass. An investment of a couple of hundred quid to get on the Fast-track train would be a sound investment.
  16. If you intend becoming an electrical CT my advise is concentrate on:


    These disciplines are used constantly for electrical calculations.
  17. If you've time and money to burn, then sure, do the maths, but if your maths is good enough to pass for AET (let's be clear, you can't join as Fast Track), then join as an AET and go to the tuition after work. I hadn't done any A-level maths and I passed the Fast track selection with no great problem. It just took a little extra work everyday, that's all.
  18. Dont worry about being called a WAFU, I've had 21 great years in the senior side of the Senior Service.
    If the average fishead had tried harder in school the Fleet Air Arm may had been a option to them. "Ha Ha"

    You Take You Chance When You Choose You Branch
  19. Wafus are entiteled to 8 hours sleep (Deckhead Inspection) a day. Any thing they can get at night is a bonus
  20. WAFU is an acronym that refers to the 'Foul Weather' clothing that could only be drawn from stores and worn by selected personnel on the Flight Deck, often known as 'Wind proofs'. WAFU actually stands for "Weapons and Fuel Users" only, normally the 'Weapons (Bombheads) and Flight Deck Stockers (Badgers).
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