US to offer UK an aircraft carrier

ElQuesoGrande

Lantern Swinger
Janes Article Cover

At the above link (you won't be able to access more than the cover story unless you are a member of Janes; I saw this at work) the story is about how the RN has sent a large amount of pilots for training on the US carriers / FA-18s, suggesting we will get a cat / arrest carrier.

The last paragraph suggests that the US is going to offer the Royal Navy one of its carriers as it draws down from a carrier fleet of 12 to 10 in the next 2 years. Janes can't say whether or not this would be a Nimitz (nuclear) CV or the USS Kitty Hawk which is currently in extended readyness and is conventionally powered (albeit 49 years old).

Janes is normally a pretty steady reliable publication, but I think the bit about us getting a US carrier is poppycock; how are we meant to find about 5000 people to man the thing for a start? Plus, the big US carriers have NEVER been able to go alongside any naval base in the UK (as far as I remember anyhow). The Nimitz class are about 100,000 ton and the Kitty Hawk about 85,000; both far larger than the new carriers we're having built.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love it to be true, but that story is something I'd have expected to see in the Sun, not Janes Defence Weekly,,,,,,,,,,
 
Janes is normally a pretty steady reliable publication, but I think the bit about us getting a US carrier is poppycock; how are we meant to find about 5000 people to man the thing for a start? Plus, the big US carriers have NEVER been able to go alongside any naval base in the UK (as far as I remember anyhow). The Nimitz class are about 100,000 ton and the Kitty Hawk about 85,000; both far larger than the new carriers we're having built.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love it to be true, but that story is something I'd have expected to see in the Sun, not Janes Defence Weekly,,,,,,,,,,[/quote]

Leaving Pompey one afternoon in the mid 70's. The OOW came over the tannoy and said, If you look for'd you will see the USS Nimitz by the Round Tower..We looked up at it!!!!
 

Seaweed

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Book Reviewer
I remember Nimitz anchoring in Spithead for a visit. Took a boat trip round her for a look-see.

btw the Kittyhawk is known to some in the USN as the shitty Kitty. A huge amount of adaptation of the ship and retraining of personnel would be needed to use her, even if we were allowed the manpower.
 

Spidiver

War Hero
Got grippoed and shown round the Nimitz in about 76ish when she was at the Spithead. The guys that showed us round were in charge of the ships video and TV channels. That's it, no duties, no watches, just worked the bloody VCR machine.

Had a great visit, untill back ashore that night, and Tab Hunter decided to nick and leggit with our grippoes Nimitz bomber jacket complete with wallet and zippo and ID. It's amazing how quickly the "special relationship" turned into a free for all fist fight in the Ship Leopard :D
 

pg55555

Lantern Swinger
There is no way the US is going to offer the UK a nuclear carrier and even if they did the cost of overhauling it and manning it would be ridiculous.

The US conventional carriers are in a crap state and would be equally ridiculous.

This is probably just a misintrepretation of initial trials etc.... to get ready for the Queen Elizabeths

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broadside

War Hero
What they MAY mean is to let the RN use one of their non-operational carriers as a dedicated training platform - though even that sounds a bit Walter Mitty-ish - may just have to accept that Janes has cocked up!
 

Seaweed

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The US used a coal-fired one on the Great Lakes during WW2 (USS Wolverene) for deck-landing training - maybe that's the one.
 

21_Man

War Hero
Maybe just simply, a way of getting experience for ops on the 'new' carrier, that we have been hearing about....for decades
 

NotmeChief

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ElQuesoGrande said:
Janes Article Cover

the US is going to offer the Royal Navy one of its carriers as it draws down from a carrier fleet of 12 to 10 in the next 2 years.

If true it's only because the US see the UK as mugs and want to palm off some of their 'past the sell by date' junk to an easy buyer.
 

w.anchor

War Hero
NotmeChief said:
ElQuesoGrande said:
Janes Article Cover

the US is going to offer the Royal Navy one of its carriers as it draws down from a carrier fleet of 12 to 10 in the next 2 years.

If true it's only because the US see the UK as mugs and want to palm off some of their 'past the sell by date' junk to an easy buyer.
Yeah just like we do with our gash to the third world maybe we have just sneaked into that category,has anyone told Dave :oops: . :wink:
 

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