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URGENT: High Blood Pressure, Medically Discarged

paddy123456

Midshipman
I join HMS Raliegh on the 23/11/08, i had a medical on the second day there and the doctor said i had high blood pressure, they then put me on a 24 hour BP monitor and the results revialed a highest reading of 202/101 and i was discharged from the navy on the 4/12/08, im 21 years old and run half marathons in 1 hour 30 minutes run 10ks in 40 minutes etc, i done my 1.5 mile run in 9 minutes 10 seconds whilst down there, and feel absolutly fine, ive been told that to have a blood pressure reading that high i should of had a stroke or fainted and that 21 year fit lads dont have blood pressure that high.
I have a blood pressure machine at home and have used it 4 times since getting home yesterday and all of the readings were normal and none of them remotly high.
Im going to my doctors next week and if he can prove that i do not have high blood pressure and that in fact i was wrongly discharged HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GETBACK INTO THE NAVY?
 
It's very unlikely that the medics at Raleigh will have got it wrong. So I would say you need to see a Dr ASAP about your condition.

If you can prove that you have not got/had blood pressure problems then there may be chances for you to look at re-joining at the next entry for your branch.

SM

:nemo:
 
There is such a thing as white coat blood pressure, I have suffered it all of my life, The Doc would take my BP then tell me to lie down for 20 mins, If I checked with the SBA the following day, it was always normal. This is a known fact, and I`m sure that any Docs on here would point that out.
 
higthepig said:
There is such a thing as white coat blood pressure, I have suffered it all of my life, The Doc would take my BP then tell me to lie down for 20 mins, If I checked with the SBA the following day, it was always normal. This is a known fact, and I`m sure that any Docs on here would point that out.

Good point Hig, but surely a 24 hr test should get around that one. I had the same problem onboard ship and the Dr said he would jump out on me around the ship when I was not expecting it. I sadi surely jumping out will scare the shit out of me and send my blood pressure through the roof.

Anyway It was a one off and I've been fine ever since.

SM

:nemo:
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Again, not medically qualified in any way shape or form but sorry to hear of the cause of medical discharge from service.

As Hig states stressful situations don't help and maybe there is an additional underlying cause. It is strongly recommended you do indeed visit your GP to get it checked out & controlled or remedied first & foremost- your good health is far more important than joining the Navy.

With regard turn-around times for re-entry, it's all rather hypothetical as all individuals discharged on medical grounds will have to satisfy that the condition which caused discharge is remedied & any chance of recurrence is as close to zero as possible. At the very least even if you were to be pronounced 100% fit by your GP, the Service would undoubtedly want robust specialist evidence to explain away the condition as a non-recurring health risk. Understandably this would take time because they would want to satisfy themselves that the condition was no more & that no medication was required to control it.

This being the case, it's impossible to advise how long or even if you will be passed fit for further service unfortunately.
 
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angrydoc

Guest
202/101 is far too high for white coat hypertension.

If you think this was wrong then measure your blood pressure daily for a couple of weeks and record it in a diary. See your GP and get a 24 hour monitor - keep the record of this.

Over-the-counter BP machines are notoriously inaccurate.
 

paddy123456

Midshipman
I went to see my GP yesterday and she informed me that my blood pressure is normal according to the readings that i have been taking over the past week and the reading that she took in the practice, i went for an ECG (heart scan) and a blood test today, hopefully the results will reveal that theres nothing wrong with me.
Rang my careers office and he is going to contact the principal medical officer at Raleigh to confirm what i need to do to appeal and get back in (providing all my tests say im OK).
Hopefully the medical officer will say that if i prove im fine then i will be let back in.
 

andym

War Hero
anglichanin said:
It's very unlikely that the medics at Raleigh will have got it wrong.

A scablifter get it wrong?? surely not??? :biggrin: :biggrin:


Highly possible in this day and age.Personally i dont think the Training these days is up to standard compared to the mid 70's.
 

Carcass

Midshipman
andym said:
anglichanin said:
It's very unlikely that the medics at Raleigh will have got it wrong.

A scablifter get it wrong?? surely not??? :biggrin: :biggrin:


Highly possible in this day and age.Personally i dont think the Training these days is up to standard compared to the mid 70's.
The curriculum has gotten a lot broader nowadays - our academics keep on trying to cut down the volume of info to be retained and they're fighting a losing battle. Something has to give somewhere.

However, I'd hope that everyone who passes their finals is at least capable of checking a BP. I mean, really...
 

paddy123456

Midshipman
I have recieved all my results back from my GP now, my blood tests were fine and the only thing that the ECG revealed was just how fit i was having a heart rate of 48 BPM.
I am now going to see a heart specialist next week to get more backup to take back to my careers office to prove to them that they were wrong to discharge me.
Just in need of a little advice, as they have discharged me when there was nothing wrong with me do you think they will give me priority to get back in?
All i want now is to be back in, ive waited 2 years before getting into raleigh, i really dont fancy waiting even more.

Let me know what you thnk?
 

IB08

Lantern Swinger
Good luck! The AFCOs only open on monday anyway from xmas leave. Let us know how you get on, what branch did you go in as anyway?
 

brendan498

War Hero
good for you Paddy,keep focussed and keep trying ,if i have my BP taken it always goes up but me hig and ninja we are old gits so it should be high
 
Out of interest, how many people took you BP and how many different 'machines' (eg manual / electronic) and over what time period?

If it were a number of different people with various pieces of kit, then there still would seem to be the need for an explanation as to why it was so high so often.

The fact that you can 'prove' that it's not high at other random times doesn't negate the fact that (IF it was done properly) it WAS high when it mattered (when the mob tested it, and presumably retested it with different bits of kit by competent people).

I can't imagine running into the AFCO shouting the docs are incompetent is going to get you fast tracked back in.

But good luck anyway for trying again.........
 

Tanzi

Lantern Swinger
If stress increases blood pressure and its already high wtf happens when things get busy, know what I mean?

BTW I was tested by machine, 200+, nursey said these machines are always wrong so I was tested by hand, 200+. Guess what, I'm on BP pills.

All the best mate - hope it gets sorted, one way or another.
 
The MA training in the mid Sixties was very patchy. I learned most of what was useful from three-badge killicks and the occasional (very occasional!) friendly Sister. However, taking a BP with a good old mercury sphygomanometer was very well taught. A few years ago I bought, in a moment of hypochondria, a home BP tester; it was a piece of Chinese-made crap. My readings were all over the place for no apparent reason and I ditched it. A clinical-situation BP, taken with modern calibrated equipment with the subject relaxed and seated and the arm to be used level with the heart, should be as accurate as makes no difference, especially if is repeatable on several occasions.
 

paddy123456

Midshipman
I have just put the appeal in, but they are telling me that its gonna be about 6 or 7 months for them to clear me, then after im cleared they will then assign me a start date again which could add another 2 or 3 months on, im not fancying waiting that long as i have already been waiting 2 years.
Needing some advice, if i was to apply for the Royal marines do you think that they would delay my application because of me being medically discharged from he RN even though i have been cleared by my GP?

Thanks Allot.
 
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angrydoc

Guest
Ninja will prob be along soon, but it would seem to make sense that if you already have a pending application with one of the branches of the Forces then that will be looked at if you apply to another branch.

It sounds like you are in an unfortunate situation, but I'm not sure if there's a lot that can be done.
 

Drakey

War Hero
paddy123456 said:
I have just put the appeal in, but they are telling me that its gonna be about 6 or 7 months for them to clear me, then after im cleared they will then assign me a start date again which could add another 2 or 3 months on, im not fancying waiting that long as i have already been waiting 2 years.
Needing some advice, if i was to apply for the Royal marines do you think that they would delay my application because of me being medically discharged from he RN even though i have been cleared by my GP?

Thanks Allot.

You will need to be medically cleared by the navy before you can proceed with your application, regardless of whether you want to re-join the navy or to apply for the marines. When you receive the outcome of the appeal (hopefully in your favour) you can apply for whatever you want to. Your AFCO should be able to process you fairly quickly as you will have aleady completed some parts of the application process that will be in date.
The fitness standards for the marines way and above the requirements for the navy.
:plotting:
 
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