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[civvy_SJM2]

...as the OP may also care to learn, that has been the practice in the Royal Australian Navy since, well, 1966....

Hi @Union Jack, thanks very much for that info. Have you got any links to documentation/articles about the 1966 change, I'd be interested in learning about the circumstances around it.

 

[Union Jack]

Hi @Union Jack, thanks very much for that info. Have you got any links to documentation/articles about the 1966 change, I'd be interested in learning about the circumstances around it.

Sadly not, my understanding is that it was simply decided that all members of the RAN should have "ranks" rather than any other title, much in the same way it was that all should be "posted" rather than "appointed" or "drafted" as officers and men respectively had been moved from one place to another.

It could simply have been deemed appropriate as part of a trend in the egalitarianism for which our Aussie friends are renowned....

If it is of interest, you may care to have a look at what the Cousins did in 2016., namely https://www.navytimes.com/news/your...listed-rating-titles-in-huge-career-shake-up/

Jack

 

[Chris P]

Gets sillier and sillier...........just saying.

 

[civvy_SJM2]

much in the same way it was that all should be "posted" rather than "appointed" or "drafted" as officers and men respectively had been moved from one place to another.

Sorry @Union Jack, I know I should have asked this earlier, but what's the difference between being appointed to a ship and being posted to a ship?

 

[WreckerL]

Sorry @Union Jack, I know I should have asked this earlier, but what's the difference between being appointed to a ship and being posted to a ship?

No difference, it's just semantics. RN Officers have an appointer, a fellow officer, therefore they were appointed. Ratings were sent to a ship from the drafting office, also by an officer whose unofficial name was "drafty", so were drafted.

Since it all went tri-service in the UK and on to a computer system (JPA, which is Joint Personnel Administration) everyone is now "assigned" as they receive an assignment order via JPA. JPA is also the reason why the RN dropped the practice of having letters at the start and end of official numbers.

 

[civvy_SJM2]

No difference, it's just semantics. RN Officers have an appointer, a fellow officer, therefore they were appointed. Ratings were sent to a ship from the drafting office, also by an officer whose unofficial name was "drafty", so were drafted.

Since it all went tri-service in the UK and on to a computer system (JPA, which is Joint Personnel Administration) everyone is now "assigned" as they receive an assignment order via JPA. JPA is also the reason why the RN dropped the practice of having letters at the start and end of official numbers.

Cool, thanks for clearing that up @WreckerL

 

[huwshpis]

No difference, it's just semantics. RN Officers have an appointer, a fellow officer, therefore they were appointed. Ratings were sent to a ship from the drafting office, also by an officer whose unofficial name was "drafty", so were drafted.

Since it all went tri-service in the UK and on to a computer system (JPA, which is Joint Personnel Administration) everyone is now "assigned" as they receive an assignment order via JPA. JPA is also the reason why the RN dropped the practice of having letters at the start and end of official numbers.

I was chucked out (time expired) just in time - still C980....

 

[WreckerL]

I was chucked out (time expired) just in time - still C980....

All legacy are still kept, I don't know how JPA copes with it as it was in my last 3 years the new numbers and JPA kicked in.

 

[Branch-Hopper]

All legacy are still kept, I don't know how JPA copes with it as it was in my last 3 years the new numbers and JPA kicked in.

Odd isn't it? We were told that JPA would not cope, yet heaps of us still have old alphanumeric numbers. How long has it been now?

 

[WreckerL]

Odd isn't it? We were told that JPA would not cope, yet heaps of us still have old alphanumeric numbers. How long has it been now?

2004 or 6?

 

[Union Jack]

Cool, thanks for clearing that up @WreckerL

Ditto!

Jack

 

[northern-matelot]

2004 or 6?

JPA came out on Oct 2006. I’m a D261 having joined in Nov ‘05. The D263’s on passing out of phase one lost their Delta numbers and became “Spartans” as they were issued with new 3000 numbers.


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