Union Flag

Pitfirrane

Lantern Swinger
#1
Have you noticed the number of British competitors at the Olympic Games holding up the Union Flag upside down?(edited to correct typo)
 

Stepto

Lantern Swinger
#4
I was in Wales recently and the RNLI were flying their Union Flag upside down.

Seems very common these days, but to be fair, most people wouldn't know.
 
#6
Fraid I'm with the Sgt on this one, Its not Trooping of the Colour either

However it does grip me that no one ever sings the national anthem when they are stood there
 
#7
Scouse_Scribes said:
Fraid I'm with the Sgt on this one, Its not Trooping of the Colour either

However it does grip me that no one ever sings the national anthem when they are stood there
They're athletes not choristers :thumright:
You want singing watch "Songs of Praise" :w00t:
 
#8
I recall an armoured vehicle during GW1 that had the Union flag upside down ! ;)

But as an aside, I have been 'advised' that the flag on all government buildings may be replaced for one day only (Sunday) with the Olympic flag ..... :shock:

Nu Liebour's idea of being 'one with the people' perhaps ???
 
#9
Perhaps our national flag should incorporate a large black arrow pointing upwards to indicate the correct direction, or should we revert to the 1775 flag used by one of our then possessions.... :biggrin:

 
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angrydoc

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#10
I thought flying the flag upside down was a sign of distress?

"The Union Jack presented upside-down is taken as a sign of distress when flown in that manner by a ship at sea. At any other time, however, it is regarded as an act of lese-majesty - an insult to the crown - and remains punishable as an act of treason."

Source
 
#11
angrydoc said:
I thought flying the flag upside down was a sign of distress?

"The Union Jack presented upside-down is taken as a sign of distress when flown in that manner by a ship at sea. At any other time, however, it is regarded as an act of lese-majesty - an insult to the crown - and remains punishable as an act of treason."

Source
Most people would clearly not notice the difference! :roll:

I am not sure if it still counts as treason, as the law was tidied up a few years ago to get rid of the more outdated requirements, such as the mandatory public hanging, drawing and quartering of those convicted of High Treason!
 
#12
The latest edition of the International Code of Signals (2005) list the following methods of signalling distress:

1. Sound signals: firing a gun or any other explosive means; continuous sounding of the fog horn; firing rockets or shells throwing red stars one at a time at intervals - in other words anything to draw attention to the ships plight.

2. Radio signals: sending SOS by Morse code or MAYDAY by voice radio; emergency position indicating radio beacons; radiotelegraph alarm signal (a series of twelve four second dashes with one second intervals); radiotelephone alarm signal (two audio tones transmitted alternately on a frequency of 2200 and 1300 Hertz for a duration of 30 seconds to one minute).

3. Visual signals: flames on deck from a burning tar or oil barrel etc); a rocket parachute flare or a hand flare showing a red light; a smoke signal giving of orange smoke; slowly raising and lowering the arms outstretched on each side.

4. Flag signals indicating distress: A square flag having above or below it a ball or anything resembling a ball; the flag group NC - I am in distress and require immediate assistance.

5. Flag signals indicating emergency situations: Flag D - Keep clear of me, I am manoeuvering with difficulty; Flag F - I am disabled. Communicate with me; Flag J - Keep well clear of me. I am on fire and have a dangerous cargo on board, or I am leaking a dangerous cargo; Flag O - Man overboard; Flag V - I require assistance; Flag W - I require medical assistance; Flag Y - I am dragging my anchor.

Andries Burgers, 27 April 2006
http://flagspot.net/flags/xf-flip.html

Yanks have a different view...

The US Flag Code says the flag should never be flown upside down except as a signal of distress, and if a vessel is in dire distress there's nothing wrong with using this as a signal, but it may not be understood and any vessel should be equipped with--and use--the signals provided in COLREGS and the Inland Navigation Rules.
Joe McMillan, 20 August 2006
 
#13
These folks are in business to win things on this country's behalf, with a bit of selfish interest thrown in, of course. They don't have a flag pole, so the orientation of the flag doesn't really matter. Now if it had been flown upside down from a pole during the medal ceremonies, that might exercise my caring muscles a bit more!
 
#14
Thingy the flag you indicate is the East India Company flag used from 1707 until 1801. And is the reason why Malaysia used it as the basis of their national flag (and not the American flag as the ill-informed would have you believe).
 
#15
Isn't that flag also what Hawaii uses also? I recall seeing it flying there back in 2000

Also tbh it don't matter they hold the flag upside down at least they have earned the opportunity to hold it due to their efforts and winning medals.

I think they've done bloody well this time. It's good to see a bit of patriotism from now and then there isn't enough of it lol
 

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