UK Homeland Security?

Do we need a new Security Service?

  • No. I trust the people who failed to stop 7/7...

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ThePunisher

Lantern Swinger
Since the civvie's - Sppoks and Plods faied - to stop 7/7, should we set up a new, paramilitary Agency like Shin Beth or even or old pals Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti?
Organisations with Military rank, discipline etc are usually more efficient than their civilian counterparts. The Police don't count; they have become so emasculated by Politiocal Correctness that they are litle more than social workers in uniform. The Met contributed to the JTAC report a few months before 7/7, which stated that no-one had the "Intention and capability to carry out a terrorist campaign in the UK at this time."
MI5 only has one Regonal Office fully staffed. Apparently, it takes up to two years to vet, recruit and fully trsin a Spook.
They must be slow learners.
It's time to set up a new Agency. This Agency will have a Military rank structure though it's operators will work mostly in plain clothes. It will have Field Offices in EVERY major city, preferrably recruited from people who live locally and know the area.
It's operators will be firearms trained and have full powers of arrest, so they are self-sufficient and can carry out operation without relying on the police.
Setting up this UK Homeland Security Agency would be vastly unpopular and lead to howls of protest from the Sppoks and Plods. Tough. They had their chance and dropped the ball.
Time for a new team.
 

CheefTiff

Lantern Swinger
The Punisher has some sound ideas I have to say.

Local security agents - powers of arrest - military rank - Sounds like a job for the retired jossmen out there !
 
Good idea, if you want some military cabbage in a paramilitary uniform interrogating you at any time - I certainly don't.

All that's needed is to get rid of the some of the deadwood in the government & legal services, and allow the professionals to do their job within reason & without interference from certain members in chambers whose spouse happens to be a biggie in government !!

Oh!, and of course a Home Secretary who will do a proper job.....
 

dt018a9667

War Hero
whitemouse said:
Good idea, if you want some military cabbage in a paramilitary uniform interrogating you at any time - I certainly don't.

All that's needed is to get rid of the some of the deadwood in the government & legal services, and allow the professionals to do their job within reason & without interference from certain members in chambers whose spouse happens to be a biggie in government !!

Oh!, and of course a Home Secretary who will do a proper job.....

Must concur. But liberty, do gooders, legal profession, pc brigade etc must be kept out or at least arms length.
 

ThePunisher

Lantern Swinger
Come on guys, you're missing the essential point here - Jobs for the Boys!
Just think; a chance to live out your Professionals/James Bond/MI/Delete where applicable fantasies!
The oppertunity to meet intresting new people - and kidnap, torture and shoot them!
And of course, the chance to settle old scores; there's no point having power if you don't abuse it.
 
ThePunisher said:
...The oppertunity to meet intresting new people - and ... shoot them!
And of course, the chance to settle old scores; there's no point having power if you don't abuse it.

You can do it already: join the Met! :(
 
ThePunisher said:
Yeah, but you're only allowed to shoot Brazilians. Or people aremed with table legs...

How about joining the paparazzi? You can mentally torture the people you are following and shoot them with your camera... and even kill them (accidentally). Remember The Princess of Wales?
 

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