UK ancestry visa

[canuck123]

My dad, grandfather, great grandfather etc... have been all born in the UK. So i am eligible for the UK ancestry visa. Does this open up the chance for me to join the RM. Or will i have to still live there/work for a number of years before i can join? Or should i just apply to them from canada and hear what they have to say? Or since my father was born in scotland should i just try to get my citizenship at the British embassy in canada? Im not sure which road to take. Anyone have an idea of whats the best one to go on?

 

[F169]

Not the 'son of a gun' then?

You should look here: http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/applying/nationality/advice/bn1?view=Standard

which says:

7. Will a child who is born on or after 1 January 1983 outside the United Kingdom be a British citizen?

Yes, the child will be a British citizen if either:

(a) he or she is born on or after 21 May 2002 in a qualifying territory (see Note 6) and one of the parents (see Note 4) is a British citizen or settled in the United Kingdom or that territory (the child will be a British citizen otherwise than by descent); or

(b) one of his or her parents is a British citizen otherwise than by descent, for example by birth, adoption registration or naturalisation in the United Kingdom (the child will be a British citizen by descent); or

 

[Nutty]

Not the 'son of a gun' then?

You should look here: http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/applying/nationality/advice/bn1?view=Standard

which says:

7. Will a child who is born on or after 1 January 1983 outside the United Kingdom be a British citizen?

Yes, the child will be a British citizen if either:

(a) he or she is born on or after 21 May 2002 in a qualifying territory (see Note 6) and one of the parents (see Note 4) is a British citizen or settled in the United Kingdom or that territory (the child will be a British citizen otherwise than by descent); or

(b) one of his or her parents is a British citizen otherwise than by descent, for example by birth, adoption registration or naturalisation in the United Kingdom (the child will be a British citizen by descent); or

Canuck

I think he is saying because your Father is British you can apply for a British passport cos you are by defacto of your Father also British. That seems to get you pasat the first hurdle to join the Booties.

Nutty

 

[F169]

Thanks Nutty, I copied in the wrong para. Basically he is a Brit - as soon as he applies for and receives his passport it will be official. Lets hope he applies before Scottish Independence!

 

[Nutty]

Thanks Nutty, I copied in the wrong para. Basically he is a Brit - as soon as he applies for and receives his passport it will be official. Lets hope he applies before Scottish Independence!

Cunuck

It is not a difficult process many friends children in Australia who have European parents apply for a passport from UK, Italy, Spain etc so they can work in the European Community whils on their world tours.

Nutty

 

[SILVER_FOX]

When the Scottish gain their independence will they have a larger Navy than England? If so, will they be recruiting? I think I could probably work some deal on the heritage angle.

SF

 

[chris]

when i spoke to the RM careers office they said you needed to have lived in england for the past 3 years.

i believe you need to be a british resident for 3 years for your security clearance to come through.

an english passport will let you join but you cant do many specialisations, because if you dont have your clearance you cant be shown any sensitive data.

that means stuff like recce ops, combat intellegence, mountain leader, all that electronic intel they do, and a fair few more.

without clearance, your basicly treated as a spy. you only do stuff that wouldnt allow you access to infomation the navy doesnt want the enemy to know about.

even as a general duties rifleman you would possibly be excluded from certain missions.

your best bet is to phone the RN/RM recruiting people and they will tell you, and it takes all of about 5 minutes.

these are the rules about joining the RMR, and i doubt the conditions are that different to the regulars.

http://royalnavy.mod.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.635/changeNav/3533

 

[F169]

Canuck - if this 3 year thing is true you can try the Oz Army (not the Balmy Army) who are now increasing strength by about 15% to 30,000. They also have commandos, although no marines.

 

[FlagWagger]

when i spoke to the RM careers office they said you needed to have lived in england for the past 3 years.

i believe you need to be a british resident for 3 years for your security clearance to come through.

I think this is probably a generalisation; I've just moved the other way from the UK to Canada and have been subject to security clearance here with no problems to a similar level to my former UK clearance.

 

[chris]

well yeh, they say its at the discretion of some person.

however, canada may have slightly different rules to the UK.

like i said, its just best to check with the RM recruiting people. they can give you a definate answer.

 

[F169]

Its probably different for someone who hasnt served to someone who is serving.............

 

[PartTimer]

when i spoke to the RM careers office they said you needed to have lived in england for the past 3 years.

i believe you need to be a british resident for 3 years for your security clearance to come through.

I think this is probably a generalisation; I've just moved the other way from the UK to Canada and have been subject to security clearance here with no problems to a similar level to my former UK clearance.

It shouldn't be a problem - you just have to get a special dispensation (in my case it was signed by the Home Secretary - all standard stuff). The only restriction from memory is that you can't cleared to Top Secret (just the standard Secret) for the first 'x' years of your career.

The key thing is getting you UK passport - so many branches are now closed to Commonwaelth only passport holders - a real shame.

 

[Seadog]

chris wrote

an english passport will let you join but you cant do many specialisations, because if you dont have your clearance you cant be shown any sensitive data.

English passport? No such beast since 1603. In which case the applicant is too old to join and his passport has expired.

Given the number of allied Officers and NCOs who serve in each other's ships and units, attend each other's staff colleges etc. I wouldn't think 'clearance' is a big issue in the real world.

 

[canuck123]

Thanks guys, im 16 in december so i got a while till i can even think of joining but you guys are helping lots. I will get the passport then call the RM and take it from there.

 

[Nutty]

Thanks guys, im 16 in december so i got a while till i can even think of joining but you guys are helping lots. I will get the passport then call the RM and take it from there.

Do not rush to get that UK Passport until you are ready to make a move a Standard 10 year one is going to cost you Canadian$175. Make you enquiries first. you will need less than 6 months to get the passort even less if all is sweet.

Nutty

 

[canuck123]

Do not rush to get that UK Passport until you are ready to make a move a Standard 10 year one is going to cost you Canadian$175. Make you enquiries first. you will need less than 6 months to get the passort even less if all is sweet.

Nutty[/quote]

$175 a year, is nothing.

 

[Obelix]

You don't even need a British passport to join the RM.

Technically, you have to be a Commonwealth citizen and have lived in the UK for a minimum of 3yrs prior to applying, but in practice if you are able to have a serving member of Her Majesty's Armed Forces write you a letter of recommendation, they will remove the 3yr residency thing.