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UGAS Undergraduate Apprenticeship Scheme - Marine/Weapons Engineer Submariner (MESM/WESM)

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Latest update, update: Career Manager advises the course is actually based in Portsmouth University (Thunderer Squadron) as a full time student.
 
Latest update, update: Career Manager advises the course is actually based in Portsmouth University (Thunderer Squadron) as a full time student.

If only I were 18 again and about to join the RN. Coming in on a bloody good salary and fast tracked to PO and then a year out at Uni? What is not to like?

Saying that, we baby tiffs had enough stick mainly from mechs for being fast tracked through to CPO, it will be interesting to see how the new UGAS recruits fare.
7 yrs as Jack me harty then sent to full time Uni, what could possibly go wrong?

7 years served world wise, well paid matelots in with young impressionable students........yep. That will be interesting.
 

Sumo

War Hero
Knew a matelot who chose his OU courses on expected male to lots of female ration, so he had a good chance of scoring at summer school, that was only one weeks full time?
 

Taztiff

War Hero
Knew a matelot who chose his OU courses on expected male to lots of female ration, so he had a good chance of scoring at summer school, that was only one weeks full time?
Did:
Maths at Reading - some females on the Maths course but there were Arts courses on at the same time.
Technology at Bath - some females on the course but there were Arts courses on at the same time.
Electronics at Manchester UMIST - 1 female(?) in a course of about 100 males, but there were Arts courses etc. etc. etc.
So, pick the course you want and 'massage' the Summer School option accordingly. :D
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Thanks for the advice. How popular/competitive would you say UGAS is, relative to the other 100 navy roles?
There are about double the number of applicants than jobs available but AA is even more heavily oversubscribed.

The danger is assuming the job is in the bag because you meet the academic entry requirement. The method of selection is very frustrating inasmuch as people think they've got the job before the final selection board sits - just a few weeks before entry. Needless to say this causes a fair bit of upset because some people only hear the bits they want to hear.

My advice is only apply for it if you are prepared to accept standard MESM or WESM.

Whilst many would disagree, I personally reckon everyone should join as a standard MESM or WESM and those who complete training at a high enough grade, display adequate leadership potential AND meet the academic requirements should sit an in-service board....the same as the old Specially Selected engineering mechanics.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
There are about double the number of applicants than jobs available but AA is even more heavily oversubscribed.

The danger is assuming the job is in the bag because you meet the academic entry requirement. The method of selection is very frustrating inasmuch as people think they've got the job before the final selection board sits - just a few weeks before entry. Needless to say this causes a fair bit of upset because some people only hear the bits they want to hear.

My advice is only apply for it if you are prepared to accept standard MESM or WESM.

Whilst many would disagree, I personally reckon everyone should join as a standard MESM or WESM and those who complete training at a high enough grade, display adequate leadership potential AND meet the academic requirements should sit an in-service board....the same as the old Specially Selected engineering mechanics.
That last paragraph pretty much sums up the Mechanician route I went through only missing out the sea recommends.
But we musn't re-invent the wheel as that would imply their Lordships got it wrong!
 

SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
That last paragraph pretty much sums up the Mechanician route I went through only missing out the sea recommends.
But we musn't re-invent the wheel as that would imply their Lordships got it wrong!
If they didn't re-invent the wheel every so often, then there would be nothing for the young thrusters to thrust for - or something.

Having been involved with young thrusters (fnar fnar!) from Scabby Would, I wish they'd just wind their necks in and crack on. If it ain't broke - don't fix it. OM anyone..........?
 

Corvus

Midshipman
Latest update, update: Career Manager advises the course is actually based in Portsmouth University (Thunderer Squadron) as a full time student.

Cheers. What's the difference between the interview that I attend later this month, and the specialist interview that I attend during the PRNC (assuming I get to the PRNC stage)?
 
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Sumo

War Hero
Di
Cheers. What's the difference between the interview that I attend later this month, and the specialist interview that I attend during the PRNC (assuming I get to the PRNC stage)?
Different questions different location?
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
I would assume the first one would be general questions such as why do you want to join the navy, where does it operate, what ships etc.

Specialist knowledge would be branch specific such as what experience and qualls do you have for, say, HP Air systems or hydraulic systems etc.

Just guesswork on my part but would seem logical to me.
 

Sumo

War Hero
I would assume the first one would be general questions such as why do you want to join the navy, where does it operate, what ships etc.

Specialist knowledge would be branch specific such as what experience and qualls do you have for, say, HP Air systems or hydraulic systems etc.

Just guesswork on my part but would seem logical to me.
He's joining the RN and you try to apply logic?;)
 
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