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UGAS Undergraduate Apprenticeship Scheme - Marine/Weapons Engineer Submariner (MESM/WESM)

Al1902

Midshipman
Just passed my PJFT today! Only the PRNC (+UGAS interview) to go now! Its getting exciting...
 
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Al1902

Midshipman
dwade98,

Haven't received a PRNC date just yet, I believe I should be told soon. Oh god, didn't know the grammar police patrolled navynet? ;). Terrible error! haha.
 

Spare_Rib

Lantern Swinger
dwade98,

Haven't received a PRNC date just yet, I believe I should be told soon. Oh god, didn't know the grammar police patrolled navynet? ;). Terrible error! haha.

Not the grammar police. The spelling police in fact. First impressions count and all that...... ;)
 

Al1902

Midshipman
Just received a call from my CA, they've given me an official start date which will be December 3rd! With the PRNC likely to be in October time and to be at Collingwood. This has me slightly confused as I thought UGAS entries were September and January? Of course, I will ask my CA more questions once I receive everything through. At least I have a date!!
 

Corvus

Midshipman
Sounds great. Wish I could join last year but I could only apply in March 2018 since they weren't going to process my application unless I was at least 17 1/2. Any further tips you might have now that you have all finished the entire process and are now in?
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Hello everyone.
I applied for the UGAS scheme back in February of this year and so far it's going well. Passed the PJFT and UGAS interview and I have the date for my PRNC up at Caledonia in Oct as well as a start date for basic next Feb.
Was curious if anyone had any tips for preparing for the 10 weeks at Raliegh?
Thanks in advance
Have you tried the search function, this has been covered many many times.
 

Corvus

Midshipman
Hello everyone.
I applied for the UGAS scheme back in February of this year and so far it's going well. Passed the PJFT and UGAS interview and I have the date for my PRNC up at Caledonia in Oct as well as a start date for basic next Feb.
Was curious if anyone had any tips for preparing for the 10 weeks at Raliegh?
Thanks in advance

Great news. I just had my medical and my PJFT should be in the next two weeks. Hopefully once that's done I'll get my interview and PRNC date. Quick question, how soon after the PJFT is the UGAS interview? I heard someone had it during their PRNC, don't know if that's true.

Were the questions they asked specific to the UGAS scheme or just general about the navy?
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Great news. I just had my medical and my PJFT should be in the next two weeks. Hopefully once that's done I'll get my interview and PRNC date. Quick question, how soon after the PJFT is the UGAS interview? I heard someone had it during their PRNC, don't know if that's true.

Were the questions they asked specific to the UGAS scheme or just general about the navy?
The UGAS selection interview, unlike the AA interview will be conducted during PRNC. I understand it will become part of the AFCO selection interview at some point in the future but not for a while.

The next UGAS entry is March 2019 I believe.
 

Corvus

Midshipman
The UGAS selection interview, unlike the AA interview will be conducted during PRNC. I understand it will become part of the AFCO selection interview at some point in the future but not for a while.

The next UGAS entry is March 2019 I believe.

Thanks Rob, please clarify for me if I'm wrong, AA stands for Accelerated Apprenticeship correct?

Thanks for the advice

Edit: You said that the next UGAS entry is March 2019. I just had my medical 2 days ago do you think that it is realistic that I would have everything done and would be ready for March? (hypothetically if my application is successful)
 
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MCSquared

Newbie
Just a heads up, I had my UGAS selection interview with a CPO submariner about a month after my PJFT and before my PRNC coming up in October so it would seem some of us if not all are being interviewed separately to the PRNC.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
please clarify for me if I'm wrong, AA stands for Accelerated Apprenticeship correct?

Thanks for the advice

Edit: You said that the next UGAS entry is March 2019. I just had my medical 2 days ago do you think that it is realistic that I would have everything done and would be ready for March? (hypothetically if my application is successful)
Correct & yes, as long as the medical goes smoothly.
 

Corvus

Midshipman
Correct & yes, as long as the medical goes smoothly.

Cheers.
1. On the page, it says that the UGAS finishes with a 1 year in house degree course, do you know the location of where this will be?

2. Also on the page, it says that the full UGAS is 7 years, but I spoke to someone who is already in the scheme and he said that it is 8 years. I don't think this will affect my decision to apply, but if you could please clarify this for me, then that would be great. Thanks.
 

Corvus

Midshipman
Just a heads up, I had my UGAS selection interview with a CPO submariner about a month after my PJFT and before my PRNC coming up in October so it would seem some of us if not all are being interviewed separately to the PRNC.

Make sense. I was just given a date for the interview and its separate to the PRNC as well. What sorts of topics were discussed in the interview? Anything very specific to the course itself?
 

Sumo

War Hero
Make sense. I was just given a date for the interview and its separate to the PRNC as well. What sorts of topics were discussed in the interview? Anything very specific to the course itself?

Not a bad scheme, whilst training you get a dam site better income than any normal university student, granted do not have the freedom but at the end of your return of service you have no university debt hanging over you, the Navy get what they want and so do you, I think that is a win-win.

Good luck and study hard
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Cheers.
1. On the page, it says that the UGAS finishes with a 1 year in house degree course, do you know the location of where this will be?

2. Also on the page, it says that the full UGAS is 7 years, but I spoke to someone who is already in the scheme and he said that it is 8 years. I don't think this will affect my decision to apply, but if you could please clarify this for me, then that would be great. Thanks.
So far as I'm aware, "in house" means HMS Sultan or HMS Collingwood, but will endeavour to confirm.

The initial contract, as I understand it, is 8.5 years. I do some more digging.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Update:

Following the first iteration of the Royal Navy Undergraduate Apprenticeship Scheme (UGAS) for ET(MESM), the scheme was expanded to include ET(WESM) specialisations.

A single application was then introduced to replace separate MESM/WESM options with UGAS candidates being streamed MESM or WESM during Phase II of training. Further amendments have since been made to support the main objective which continues to be mitigating shortfalls of MESM and WESM operators/ maintainers at the Petty Officer level .

UGAS offers an accelerated training route to Petty Officer Engineering Technician (POET) and is aimed at recruits with a minimum of Level 3 STEM qualifications who will join on an 8.5 year tailored career (TC). They start as probationary Leading Hands and undertake approximately 3.5 years of intensive training to qualify as POETs before serving at sea as qualified POET (MESM or WESM) operators/maintainers for a minimum of 3 years. Their Tailored Career finishes with a 1 year in-service university course that will gain candidates a BEng (Hons) degree*.

The main characteristics of the scheme:
  • An 8.5 year initial engagement with the option to extend,
  • A paid in-service BEng(Hons) engineering degree (includes 1 year at university) ,
  • Joining as probationary Leading Hand with current salary of £31,166.
  • Confirmed in the substantive rank of LET after approx. 18 mths and POET after approx. 4 years, subject to meeting the schemes’ criteria,
  • Career choices at the end of the scheme including an option to apply for a career extension to 20 years, MESM or WESM Officer (if AIB passed and selected) or leave the RN with a degree and valuable technician experience. In the latter case the RN will encourage candidates to consider moving into the Defence engineering industry.
The introduction of the Accelerated Apprentice (Submarines) (AA(SM)) scheme has caused a review of the qualifications criteria for UGAS applicants. However, unlike the AA(SM) the specialist interview is conducted at RNAC North during PRNC.

Applicability

Standard eligibility criteria for ET(MESM/WESM) will apply, with the following additions and exceptions:
  • Age on entry of 18 – 34 years old.
  • 5x GCSE at grade A*- C inc Maths, English and at least one science based subject.
  • At least 48 UCAS points from a range of Level 3 qualifications in STEM subjects (BTEC, A levels, Highers etc).
Recruiting Process

The initial recruiting process up to the PRNC for the UGAS scheme is the same as for ET(MESM/WESM). The only exception to the normal process is the specialist interview conducted at the PRNC.

The next UGAS entries are as follows:
• 10 Feb 19
• 15 Sept 19

Candidates will be informed of their success/failure in gaining an UGAS place at least 8 weeks prior to their assigned entry date.

Candidates who are not offered a UGAS place can be considered for the standard ET(MESM/WESM) entry (subject to availability/eligibility).

The specialist interview will take place at RNAC (North) - MoD Caledonia, Rosyth on the final day of PRNC.

*Pending confirmation from Career Manager wrt whether this is undertaken at Collingwood/Sultan as a full time university student on campus.
 
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