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UCAS Points Clarification

chieftiff

War Hero
Moderator
Ninja_Stoker said:
Yep, just to clarify: a degree on its own is not acceptable:

Ninja_Stoker said:
Why are GCSE & A Levels required when you have a Degree? Because you need to prove a broad-based educational background.

Hope that helps, subject to Chico's verification & good luck.

As mad as this may sound it actually makes perfect sense. It was a long held view by educators that many graduates, whilst obviously not stupid, did not fare well in the big wide world. A fairly recent government review (called the Leitch Review if you want to google it) confirmed this and kicked up some interesting facts like: half of all adults in this country have serious problems with numbers, and 5 million members of the adult workforce are functionally illiterate. A third of those with a degre level education fall into the "problems with numbers" category which is a little worrying and believe it or not a small percentage fall into the "functionally illiterate".

Having basic level 2 qualifications in Maths and English has long been a requirement of the learning sector, even if a teacher has a Masters in Maths he can't complete a PGCE or CertEd without a GCSE in it and English.

The whole education system is about to undergo a big shake up starting from this September with the introduction of a new Qualification and Credit Framework and the introduction of 14-19 Diploma's, hopefully this will pull us back from the precipice of failing skills and productivity. Until that kicks in properly(c 2011) it's a good thing that you need to prove literacy and numeracy as well as academic ability at University level. Even Warfare Officer need to read and write (a bit) :dwarf:
 

Kelborn

Badgeman
Wouldn't it make sense if the Royal Navy, like the Police force had examinations in literacy in numeracy that graduates who didn't have the necessary a levels could take to prove they possessed the necessary skills.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Kelborn said:
Wouldn't it make sense if the Royal Navy, like the Police force had examinations in literacy in numeracy that graduates who didn't have the necessary a levels could take to prove they possessed the necessary skills.

Officers are now tested in numeracy & literacy as part of the initial recruiting test- this is a pass/fail element before AIB, however it still does not replace the need for English & Maths GCSE's (A*-C) & 3 other GCSE's.

The standard for A Levels (which can be any subject) is imminently about to rise, rather than be dispensed with. Someone with a Degree or better can easily gain the (soon to be) 180 UCAS points at AS Level within 9 months if they wish- it often takes longer than that to join anyway, so there's not much point having the A level requirement replaced by a test.

The fact someone has obtained a third in media studies, for example, doesn't mean they can do sums or spell, as we frequently find.
 
180 UCAS points is equiv to:

1x A Level Grade B and 1x A Level Grade C.

Not sure about NVQs etc. but the Merlin UCAS Tariff Calculator is pretty good - you get points for a musical instrument exam pass at Grade 6+ (Don't know if the Navy include that though, and no the pink oboe doesn't count either ;))
 

the_robmeister

Midshipman
Ninja.
So if you did your a levels or whatever while being a rating, would you then have to leave and reapply, or hand in your 12 months notice, or could you really just straight away apply?
thanks
 
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