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Type 45

Goodwinch95

Midshipman
According to The Type 45 specifications it was not required to operate at full capacity or for sustained periods - in hot regions such as the Gulf. It now appears that they can't operate off the Devon coast either when exercising with Spanish,German and Portuguese. HMS Duncan towed back to harbour escorted by three tugs. I bet the Russians off Syria are somewhat amused. Bring back the Type 12.
 

Stirlin

War Hero
According to The Type 45 specifications it was not required to operate at full capacity or for sustained periods - in hot regions such as the Gulf. It now appears that they can't operate off the Devon coast either when exercising with Spanish,German and Portuguese. HMS Duncan towed back to harbour escorted by three tugs. I bet the Russians off Syria are somewhat amused. Bring back the Type 12.
Do not feed the troll.
 

Sumo

War Hero
type 12, to remember them the poster must be kin old, possibly spending more time in cuckoo land than reality, probably served with Del boys uncle Albert
 

dhobyitch

Lantern Swinger
type 12, to remember them the poster must be kin old, possibly spending more time in cuckoo land than reality, probably served with Del boys uncle Albert

Leanders were classed as a Type 12 (improved).
INS. Krishna (Andromeda), was only decommissioned 4 years ago. :)
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
Type 12 was the Rothesay Class frigate, twin 4.5 turret, mortar thingy at the back, Wasp helo. At least one went around the world in 83/84, arrived home a day ahead of schedule.

One had waterjet propulsion in later life. Awesome.

That's my application to the PSOF Club written up.
 

Hooly

Lantern Swinger
Just to let you know that HMS Duncan fault could have happened to any ship and it had nothing to do with the propulsion or power generation system. I can't go into details for obvious reasons
 

Sumo

War Hero
Just to let you know that HMS Duncan fault could have happened to any ship and it had nothing to do with the propulsion or power generation system. I can't go into details for obvious reasons
your an ex pogo and the techy stuff just goes right over your head?
 

guns1969

War Hero
type 12, to remember them the poster must be kin old, possibly spending more time in cuckoo land than reality, probably served with Del boys uncle Albert
Less of the 'Old' please, in cuckoo land - maybe, but still 20 months away from being an OAP.
Loved my time on Leanders and Type 12's, and No, I didn't know Uncle Albert. Thank You.
 

Wightsparker

War Hero
Type 12 was the Rothesay Class frigate, twin 4.5 turret, mortar thingy at the back, Wasp helo. At least one went around the world in 83/84, arrived home a day ahead of schedule.

One had waterjet propulsion in later life. Awesome.

That's my application to the PSOF Club written up.


Tsk, tsk, Seadog. The original Type 12 was the Whitby class. Twin 4.5 turret, no Wasp helo. Two mortar thingies at the back (as had the later Rothesays until they were modified to have a hangar and flight deck). Torpedo tubes were also planned - although never fitted.
Torquay went on for years in a training role; there was a boast that she was "the Fastest Fighting Frigate in the Fleet".

I regret that your application to the PSOF Club has been blackballed.
 

Goodwinch95

Midshipman
Well well well, my mention of the type 12 was a joke, but at least they could operate in all water temperatures as could the type 15 frigate, HMS Ursa for example, launched in 1943 and spent it's time when I was on it for two years as West Indies guard ship duties, based in Bermuda - lots of visits, sunbathing and cricket, oh and hitting the jetty in Key West much harder than was intended. My only real winge about the Type 45 which is the most advanced vessel of it's type afloat, would be ,why do the WR-21 GT have a major design fault which causes the GT's to fail. When this happens the load on the diesel generators becomes too great and they trip out, leaving the ship with no propulsion. You would of thought that they would have sorted this problem out before they were fitted into any of the Type 45's. A real shame really as each vessel is going to cost the taxpayer a further £350 million which could have gone into Naval pensions!!!!
 

Sumo

War Hero
An ex pogo?, do you mean he's a stick?
only one letter out,picky? Its not as if I misses the whole word out like "Not" just before guilty on a courts sentencing paperwork ? Anyway ex pongo he will be the doing Tiff not the reading one, he will never notice?
 
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Guest
Type 12

Well well well, my mention of the type 12 was a joke, but at least they could operate in all water temperatures as could the type 15 frigate, HMS Ursa for example, launched in 1943 and spent it's time when I was on it for two years as West Indies guard ship duties, based in Bermuda - lots of visits, sunbathing and cricket, oh and hitting the jetty in Key West much harder than was intended. My only real winge about the Type 45 which is the most advanced vessel of it's type afloat, would be ,why do the WR-21 GT have a major design fault which causes the GT's to fail. When this happens the load on the diesel generators becomes too great and they trip out, leaving the ship with no propulsion. You would of thought that they would have sorted this problem out before they were fitted into any of the Type 45's. A real shame really as each vessel is going to cost the taxpayer a further £350 million which could have gone into Naval pensions!!!!

And you garnered all this front-line information about the T45s P&P problems from, where ... exactly?

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guestm

Guest
I bet the Russians off Syria are somewhat amused. Bring back the Type 12.

Not that swept up are we?

If there's anyone laughing on the Kuznetsov at the moment I'd be very surprised. I'd also wager the wider Russian 'Navy' would trade their problems for ours any day.
 

Sumo

War Hero
Not that swept up are we?

If there's anyone laughing on the Kuznetsov at the moment I'd be very surprised. I'd also wager the wider Russian 'Navy' would trade their problems for ours any day.
Navy's of the world have the same problems to over come, most government's justifying the cost, they end up with many rounds of the cost, quality, operability (end user) triangle, trying to maintain it as an equilateral triangle, and often losing the battle, to cheap, does not always give good quality, it then becomes the skill of the end users to manage what the government delivered?
 
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