T's & C's of service

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  1. I have my Navy interview on Friday, and as prep they sent me a letter outlining things I need to know for it and one of them is terms and conditions of service, but I'm struggling to find them online, can anybody help please?!
  2. How long do you have to serve from when you sign up

    How do you feel about having to kill someone

    What can be expected of you deployment wise

    What is the view on the use of drugs

    From what I remember when I sat mine, it was more of a general chat about things and what you know etc as opposed to 'I now want you to list the 2nd, 4th and 7th condition of service that will be expected'

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  3. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    The terms & conditions have no bearing on whether or not you rejoice in the prospect of killing someone, but it is a rather bizarre hypothetical question exclusive to Officer candidates. It's a bit of a worry why anyone asks that question as the person most likely to directly kill someone is a Royal Marine or a Warfare Specialist, not an Officer, but no one asks them about it.
  4. But I'm applying for a job with the word 'war' in it! :salute:

    As I said I can't speak from experience as AFCO staff, only as someone who has applied and sat a SIFT interview.

    When I sat mine (around 2ish years ago so I may be out of date) the Officer didn't do anything to try and trip you up, as has been said in other posts they want you to pass and make a go out of the Royal Navy. Like any kind of interview, if you don't get the questions or don't understand how they're wording it just ask them to explain it again and don't just bumble through with an answer you're making up as you go along.

    At the end of the day if you know your application process, initial training and professional training inside and out, know how long you have to sign up for and what can be expected from you once you get to a 'front line' post as it were then I'd say you'd be fine for the T&C part of the interview.

    But like I said, I could be totally off key with this, so if anyone knows better please allow me to stand corrected.
  5. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Question for the OP - are you joining as a rating or officer?
  6. Whichever it is, he/she doesn't know how to use apostrophes!

    I blame TV, since numerous adverts are showing that 'T's & C's' or 'T&C's' apply.

    Crikey, it'll be 'fish and chip's' next.............
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  7. We can get take away pizza's here.
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  8. With a side order of fried potatoe's I hope.
  9. I am also in the same situation, I have my interview on Monday and I am also struggling to find the terms and conditions of service. I am joining as a rating and hopefully if all goes well ill be going in as an AET. If anyone could shed some light it would be very much appreciated. Thanks
  10. Being foreign chaps they're trying very hard to fit in and do actually advertise "spud's".
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  11. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    For ratings: Your contract is for up to 18 years or up to age 40, whichever is longer.

    You may opt out (leave) after 28 days up to and including week 26 of training. After that point, you must complete phase two (branch specific) training and a minimum of 30 months Return of Service before you may submit 12 months notice to quit.
  12. thanks Ninja_Stoker very much appreciated!

  13. Does Mr Murhpy know he's lost something?
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  14. Interesting observation. When I am closed up at action and order, 'Take Track 1234 with [whatever weapon system]' is it he guy or girl who presses the button that kills the people or me, or is it the whole team?

    I would agree that it should be asked of everyone.
  15. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    There are of course various takes on who squeezes the trigger, drops the bomb, fires the missile that kills, but it is rather peculiar that all officers are asked the question no matter how remote the likelihood. Very melodramatic, but extremely random.
  16. I was given information packs by my CA. They have everything you need to know in them. Just read them back to back then read them again taking notes.
  17. I find the whole asking the question of killing someone totaly bizzar to ask anyone joining the armed forces. Maybe Im missing something as a civvy but come on you wouldnt be joining up without the knowledge that you might have to kill someone or order someone to kill someone.

    "sorry sir I didnt realise I might have to kill someone can you drop me off at the beach please?"

    Its a bit like becoming an MP and asking if its ok to lie and twist the truth.
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  18. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    I disagree, DruAde. As historic (and more recent) events have proven, being in the military does not give somebody carte blanche to terminate another person's life with extreme prejudice. The person receiving the order is just as culpable for carrying out the act as the person issuing the order, and both should be equally aware of the requirement for the command to be lawful in the first place. "I was just carrying out orders..." is no excuse.
  19. With the greatest of respect sgtpepperhand (and I meen that), we all understand there is no carte blanche but where does that come into the question "Could you kill someone" when joining the armed forces. Maybe I worded my responce incorrectly , entirely possible as I had to edit it twice lol.

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