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Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lorry'
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rosinacarley
MIA
Nutty said:
The point I was inadequately trying to make, is that we don't know it was reasonable force do we?
Its quite clear that several people have gone off on one because I would rather unhold the rule of law than read the Daily Mail. Now if you don't mind I have cats to cuddle and pink spangly things to stick on things.
Oil_Slick
War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo
Yes we do, see the CPS guidance I posted back at the beginning. If you are outnumbered you can use more 'force' than if it's a one on without that force becoming 'unreasonable'…
The law is really pretty simple in this respect.
rosinacarley said:
Yes we do, see the CPS guidance I posted back at the beginning. If you are outnumbered you can use more 'force' than if it's a one on without that force becoming 'unreasonable'…
The law is really pretty simple in this respect.
rosinacarley
MIA
You know it is reasonable from reading the Daily Mail report?
rosinacarley said:
Rosy
As I have previously stated you were using the word minimum, and in the World of Lawyers if a word is not contested then it become the truth and nothing but the truth.
After 9 pages you appear to have been battered into submission and accept that what the law actually says is reasonable. In the event of a dispute, then a Jury can decide what is reasonable as they did in the case of Tony Martin and I agreed with them. Its like dishonesty a state of mind and if unclear then the jury and jury alone decide.
Nutty
rosinacarley
MIA
Nutty said:
Never! Bored more like it!
alacrity174
War Hero
rosinacarley said:
Rosie
My little lumpy jumper part time matelot, all the time pain in the stern.
You really are infuriating with you absolute unwillingness to concede that you were and are wrong.
Your opinions are your own and you are welcome to them, BUT in the real world 3 v 1 is not a fair fight and in self defence you are able to use whatever implement comes to hand. As obviously as has been cooberated by other news sources not just the Mail, these thugs had baseball bats and were your proto typical Bad guys with arrest warrents a mile long.
So can you please admit for once in your existance you were wrong and that this poor chap was within his rights.
NZ_Bootneck
War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo
There is no such definition as minimum force as a defence against attack it is reasonable force. That means if 3 men attack you with baseball bats a jury (And not some pretentious 2nd Year Law student.) may find that stabbing them was a reaonable form of defending yourself.
If that is your knowledge of criminal law at this stage of your career, I'd forego the expense of outfitting yourself with wig and gown for your big debut at the Magistrates Court for a while yet.
Dry your eyes suger t!#$, I might have a little more respect for your 'legal' opinions if you managed to get the terminology correct for a start.rosinacarley said:
There is no such definition as minimum force as a defence against attack it is reasonable force. That means if 3 men attack you with baseball bats a jury (And not some pretentious 2nd Year Law student.) may find that stabbing them was a reaonable form of defending yourself.
If that is your knowledge of criminal law at this stage of your career, I'd forego the expense of outfitting yourself with wig and gown for your big debut at the Magistrates Court for a while yet.
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo
I have an image of Slim in my mind, sat in the cab of his Union Jack painted outrage wagon, a nice array of knives to hand, a few old copies of the daily mail scattered around with inane scribbling like "Bastards!!" and "Send them back" all over them. He's waiting for a trio of robbers composed of one Polish, one Carribean and one Pakistani to come and have try and steal his load of Enoch powell posters he was hauling.
I have an image of Slim in my mind, sat in the cab of his Union Jack painted outrage wagon, a nice array of knives to hand, a few old copies of the daily mail scattered around with inane scribbling like "Bastards!!" and "Send them back" all over them. He's waiting for a trio of robbers composed of one Polish, one Carribean and one Pakistani to come and have try and steal his load of Enoch powell posters he was hauling.
slim
War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo
Don't know where you get that image from.
Poles are a hard working group usually and I prefer Poles to the home grown Chav scum we seem to have bred in recent years.
No problem with Caribbeans either got pissed with enough of them during my time.
As for Pakistanis, look at my postings, I don't think that I have ever slagged them off as a race. I have slagged off individuals who have robbed our benefit system.
As for Enoch Powell, he was before your time and his words are starting to sound almost prophetic, rivers of blood anyone. He was a good politician who was not afraid to speak out, unlike today's politicians who are afraid that anything they say may be construed as racist.
Yes I read the Mail also The Times, Telegraph, Independent and Express among others, all available on line.
Now I put my Hand up and state that I am to the right of Genghis Khan.
I stand for Law & Order, Fairness, a Social security system fit for purpose and not a ticket for a life of idleness, Politicians to be more accountable to the electorate and those caught breaking the law to be given appropriate prison sentences to be served in real prisons and not guest houses,
And you stand for?
Montigny_La_Palisse said:
Don't know where you get that image from.
Poles are a hard working group usually and I prefer Poles to the home grown Chav scum we seem to have bred in recent years.
No problem with Caribbeans either got pissed with enough of them during my time.
As for Pakistanis, look at my postings, I don't think that I have ever slagged them off as a race. I have slagged off individuals who have robbed our benefit system.
As for Enoch Powell, he was before your time and his words are starting to sound almost prophetic, rivers of blood anyone. He was a good politician who was not afraid to speak out, unlike today's politicians who are afraid that anything they say may be construed as racist.
Yes I read the Mail also The Times, Telegraph, Independent and Express among others, all available on line.
Now I put my Hand up and state that I am to the right of Genghis Khan.
I stand for Law & Order, Fairness, a Social security system fit for purpose and not a ticket for a life of idleness, Politicians to be more accountable to the electorate and those caught breaking the law to be given appropriate prison sentences to be served in real prisons and not guest houses,
And you stand for?
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo
Ladies when they enter the room.
slim said:
Ladies when they enter the room.
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo
Some chopping of posts that go off topic, rant or just don't come up to standard. There is plenty of space in Lil's for those who want to post when pissed or when their brain is otherwise at stand easy. Please post there and leave Current Affairs for those who want a serious discussion. It was ever thus.
And thingy, you appear to be reverting to your AAC days with your non stop beefer innuendo. Give it a rest.
Some chopping of posts that go off topic, rant or just don't come up to standard. There is plenty of space in Lil's for those who want to post when pissed or when their brain is otherwise at stand easy. Please post there and leave Current Affairs for those who want a serious discussion. It was ever thus.
And thingy, you appear to be reverting to your AAC days with your non stop beefer innuendo. Give it a rest.
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo
In all seriousness Slim, I'm not going to go to great lenght about my Political views, I'll leave you in the knowledge that I'm a Centre left moderate social Liberal, make of that what you will.
In all seriousness Slim, I'm not going to go to great lenght about my Political views, I'll leave you in the knowledge that I'm a Centre left moderate social Liberal, make of that what you will.
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo
No, I said CENTRE left MODERATE social Liberal. It's a big spectrum, don't tar me with the looney left brush.
slim said:
No, I said CENTRE left MODERATE social Liberal. It's a big spectrum, don't tar me with the looney left brush.
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