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Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lorry'

Wish some cnut would nick my truck at times, preferably when it's got fish bins full of cut off fish heads or stiffs in it. Oh, Thursdays would be good as well, I could get long weekenders then.
 
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

Oil_Slick said:
thingy said:
I fully support what Rosie has said. Whilst there is understandable anger at what the Daily Wail,a paper known to embellish reports with its own right-wing gloss , have alledged, this driver used disproportionate force.
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Oil_Slick said:
Bollox… law says you may resort to a weapon i you're outnumbered and in fear of your life. Stop putting your pink PC spin on the law as it ACTUALLY is.

I wouldn't trust the Wail's reporting accuracy with either a Barge Pole or a Warsaw Pole. If you fear for your life you may use proportionate force. It is for a jury to decide if under the circumstances, once ALL the FACTS are known, if he really feared for his life as against merely his property.

thingy said:
The real potential consequences of his behaviour are not that drivers will be safer and offenders deterred, butfrom experience elsewhere, that bona fide (as against opportunist) offenders will routinely carry knives or firearms.

Oil_Slick said:
What planet do you live on? In case you hadn't noticed, criminals are routinely tooled up now… Notice all the Police wear stab vests now? :roll:

Planet Thingy if you must know. :roll: Whilst some offenders carry weapons, most do not. Most crime, is after all, oppotunistic.

thingy said:
The Daily Wail don't like parents being regulated in any way, which they call PC liberal interference. They are wrong. As Adm. LeFanu said some 60 years ago: there are no bad boys, only bad parents.

OK, so in your somewhat retarded world, no kids of 'good' parents ever break the law…

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! :eek: 8O

Tell me it's not true! :twisted:
 
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

4to8 said:
thingy said:
Incidentaly I have been assaulted twice, so am not writing this as an armchair liberal. The men, if one can call some skinheads men, knew that they would get away with it because at that time antigay attacks were more socially acceptable than today..


would this prevent a recurrence ? :wink:

A cure has been found for Gay people and millions of them are queuing up outside pharmacies around the world as the over the shelf product is released.

"I can't believe it - at last," said former Take That star Robbie Williams - "Now maybe they will let me back in the band!"

Tom Cruise says he will be 'camping' out all night outside his local CVS "This is what I need - at last I can and get those roles Brad Pitt seems to get!"

The pill, developed in Russia, changes the way brainwaves perceive sexual preference - only one pill is needed! "Brilliant" said Anderson Cooper - no more loitering around toilets for me.

Lesbians can also be cured - Elton John for instance, the worlds most famous Lesbian says he will order his on line. Funnyman Bill Maher (who stole my joke about Chickens once) is another who will buy the pill.

The Vatican has already ordered 200,000 to be distributed amongst its priest and Buckingham Palace has ordered 3.

The only downside to this 'cure' for this 'disease' is that Heterosexuals or 'Straights' as they like to be called can not take the pill as it will have a reverse effect - making them Arse Bandits and Carpet Munchers!

However the good news doesn't stop there - the same Doctors who produced this pill say they have another one in the pipeline which will cure black people and Middle Eastern looking people and make them white - wiping out World Hunger and ensuring World peace! That pill will be released sometime in March.

Unfortunately it doesn't work on Chinese, Japaneses or any other 'Cheese' people.
Spoof

GREEEEEEEAAAAAT! :p Where do I apply? :)
 
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

onions said:
Thingy, would you like to expand your statement that the driver used "disproportionate" force. THREE blokes were were out to rob him, his truck or his employers property. He took on THREE reprobates and got the better of them. So, in your opinion, what would be fairer odds 4-1, 5-1 or maybe a full riot squad! Lets hope the "do gooders" don't put him into the dock on some frivolous charge.

Keep Striving

He could have walked away, perhaps. The Wail have a strong tendency to report only part a story. I want to know the REST...
 
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

NZ_Bootneck said:
thingy said:
... that bona fide (as against opportunist) offenders will routinely carry knives or firearms.
Rather than just Baseball bats?

thingy said:
Despite this I do not think summary "justice" is the solution. You need to address the cause of the offending behaviour: poor parenting or offender parents socialising their children into seeing crime as a legitimate way to make a living.

It wasn't summary justice he was defending himself from 3 armed men intent on doing him harm.

Perhaps he should have waited for you and Rosie to mince up and show them the error of their ways, oh but wait Rosies to busy Studying to actually qualify as a lawyer,whilst skyping and banging out PC ladendross and you're fiddling with your bits fantasising about Ganges boys, so the Greek trucker would have had a long wait , eh?.

Wittering on about the causes of crime, poverty and social disfunction is hardly relevant is it? You could spend a month of sundays attemping to help these scum and they'd probably do you over in the blink of an eye if the felt there was a quid in it.

Pity all 3 of them aren't pushing up daisies.

I spend much of my spare time reading philosophy books. Surely you're not telling me that Kelsen's Pure Theory of Law is irrelevant! :lol: Ok, OK, it might be a bit abstract.... :oops:

Oooooooo, to have bits! That's my fantasy... actually having real balls rather than silicone implants. Well no it's not my fantasy actually. Not after all I've heard about men with their own balls and testosterone being ruled by their bits rather than their brains. I am a fundamentalist liberal and I suspect if RR'ers balls dropped off tomorrow you'd be governed by reason rather than emotion or at least I hope so. Sexual arousal is, after all, a dysfunctional way of "thinking" when reproduction is not involved.

We do not know all the facts. Had I read this report in the Times I might afford it greater credibility, but I want to know what really happened. Did the driver REALLY fear for his life? Could he have walked away rather than tackling the alledged offenders? Who threatened whom first?
 
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

thingy said:
We do not know all the facts. Had I read this report in the Times I might afford it greater credibility, but I want to know what really happened. Did the driver REALLY fear for his life? Could he have walked away rather than tackling the alledged offenders? Who threatened whom first?

The driver did sustain head injuries . The simple written fact that the event occurred in the early hours of the morning is suspicious .
They could have been involved in a dispute however it doesn't matter what the circumstances were if the driver was defending himself against three guys intent on doing him or his possessions harm .

I hope the 'wail' and BBC do a follow up anyway just so as we get a
'end ' the to the story

G.
 

NZ_Bootneck

War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

thingy said:
I spend much of my spare time reading philosophy books. Surely you're not telling me that Kelsen's Pure Theory of Law is irrelevant! :lol: Ok, OK, it might be a bit abstract.... :oops:
Reading philosophy? I thought you spent your spare time tending to the souls of neer do wells and their families, guiding them onto the path of peace, harmony and love for their fellow man? Oh, that was just more of your usual bollix was it.

thingy said:
Oooooooo, to have bits! That's my fantasy... actually having real balls rather than silicone implants. Well no it's not my fantasy actually. Not after all I've heard about men with their own balls and testosterone being ruled by their bits rather than their brains. I am a fundamentalist liberal and I suspect if RR'ers balls dropped off tomorrow you'd be governed by reason rather than emotion or at least I hope so. Sexual arousal is, after all, a dysfunctional way of "thinking" when reproduction is not involved.
I'm sorry I don't get sexually aroused over stories about people dying. Yes, second hand knowledge of things sexual (And Naval of course.) must be very trying for you.

thingy said:
We do not know all the facts. Had I read this report in the Times I might afford it greater credibility, but I want to know what really happened. Did the driver REALLY fear for his life? Could he have walked away rather than tackling the alledged offenders? Who threatened whom first?
The Times, yes I'm sure the veracity of that august organ has never been questioned under it's current ownership.
Yes walking away usually works with baseball bat wielding thugs.
 

Oil_Slick

War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

thingy said:
I wouldn't trust the Wail's reporting accuracy with either a Barge Pole or a Warsaw Pole. If you fear for your life you may use proportionate force.


Wrong again… the legal determination is 'reasonable force'.
 
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

So what did he stab them with? A screwdriver? A Knife? If so are you advocating this guy carrying a knife?
 

slim

War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

Montigny_La_Palisse said:
So what did he stab them with? A screwdriver? A Knife? If so are you advocating this guy carrying a knife?

A truck drivers cab is his home when he is on long distance trips. he eats and sleeps in it.
Do you have knives at home?
 
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

slim said:
Montigny_La_Palisse said:
So what did he stab them with? A screwdriver? A Knife? If so are you advocating this guy carrying a knife?

A truck drivers cab is his home when he is on long distance trips. he eats and sleeps in it.
Do you have knives at home?

Not immediately to hand if 3 blokes kicked off, no.
 

slim

War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

Montigny_La_Palisse said:
slim said:
Montigny_La_Palisse said:
So what did he stab them with? A screwdriver? A Knife? If so are you advocating this guy carrying a knife?

A truck drivers cab is his home when he is on long distance trips. he eats and sleeps in it.
Do you have knives at home?

Not immediately to hand if 3 blokes kicked off, no.

Well I suppose the cab can be considered as only one room :p
However truck drivers will have knives in their cabs, they are tools of the trade, not everyone uses adjustable straps to tie down the sheets, some still use rope.
 

Oil_Slick

War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

Montigny_La_Palisse said:
So what did he stab them with? A screwdriver? A Knife? If so are you advocating this guy carrying a knife?


To hand in his cab a HGV trucker will have his kitchen knives, his personal shive he will use when tying off a load, tyre irons, wheel wrench, usually a couple of crowbars, hammers and yes, screwdrivers. 8)
 

Oil_Slick

War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

NZ_Bootneck said:
I'm sorry I don't get sexually aroused over stories about people dying. Yes, second hand knowledge of things sexual (And Naval of course.) must be very trying for you.




NZ_Bootneck shoots! He scores! :p
 

Oil_Slick

War Hero
Re: Truck driver who 'stabbed hijacker to death defending lo

Being as how the report in the Daily Mail is a cause of mucho consternation… Here we are, a report from a reliably left wing newspaper.




Lorry driver 'stabs hijacker to death'


By Rod Chaytor 27/02/2009

A greek lorry driver was being held yesterday for allegedly stabbing a suspected robber to death.

A 34-year-old and a 15-year-old, also thought to have tried to raid his lorry, were in hospital last night with knife wounds.

The trucker was asleep in his cab at 6.20am yesterday when he was woken by torchlight. He told police he suffered a knock to the head, and picked up a knife.

All three attackers, bleeding heavily, fled in a blue Subaru Impreza from the Station Road industrial estate in Coleshill, Warks.

Later that morning, two men arrived at the the A&E department of Sandwell General Hospital in West Bromwich, drenched in blood. A 36-year-old man lay in their car, believed to have bled to death.

The driver was named as Vassilios Michalakopoulos, 41, a married father of three, by the Greek subcontractor he worked for but police would not confirm this.

He was due to pick up a load for Greece when IFL opened for business yesterday morning. IFL sales manager Nigel Parsons said the driver later told him, as he awaited police, that he was set upon by three baseball-bat wielding robbers. They apparently tried to steal the lorry, which the driver owns, and he claimed to have stabbed them after being attacked first.

Mr Parsons said: "Three men approached shining flashlights into the window to see what was inside. It looks as though they were trying to steal the actual lorry. The three men apparently had baseball bats and, possibly fearing for his life, he stabbed them.

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"Immediately afterwards, he pulled into our yard and began screaming, half in Greek and half in English. He told some of our workers what had happened and they called an ambulance.

A short while later, he was arrested."

A witness at Sandwell General said: "A blue car skidded to a halt at the entrance. Two chaps jumped out and started screaming, 'Help us, help us, we've all been stabbed,' and they were drenched in blood.

"They went into the back seat where a third man was sitting. It took five hospital staff to carry him into the hospital. The whole time the other two where shouting and screaming."

Last night the two survivors were taken off the critical list.



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...iver-stabs-hijacker-to-death-115875-21156144/
 

timex

Lantern Swinger
So later on that morning the totally innocent men took their nearly dead oppo to Hospital?

Why not go straight to Hospital or call the Police? Looks like a duck etc etc..
 

Ajax

Midshipman
"He was a notorious lorry-jacker,known to forces across England". The deceased Mr. Dean Skidmore is also described as a " modern-day highwayman" in the report I have just read on www.birminghampost.net. The Birmingham Post is the chosen paper of Brum's educated elite.
 

NZ_Bootneck

War Hero
Deary me, the 'evidence' seems to be moving into the issuing of Get Out of Jail Free card.
BZ Mr Michalakopoulas.
 
Looking to me like this is becoming more and more like a case closed. Renown for stealing lorries, with baseball bats, and hit the driver on the head first, as long as these chavs all have stab wounds to the front of their bodies, I doubt even the most stupid of the CPS would put that through.

Well done to him for defending himself against three armed men, if you and two armed mates get seen off by one man, you clearly are in the wrong profession!
 

NZ_Bootneck

War Hero
Oopps better not get too excited, your soaring Testosterone levels will upset some other less fortunate members. :twisted:
 
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