Tri-service pay mistakes

[gerrysurfs]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-army-soldiers-must-pay-5288205

 

[gerrysurfs]

Anyone heard anything about this?

 

[WindowLickerScribe]

The Mirror are really slow, as this has been rumbling since 2011. The Naval personnel affected have mostly been warfare and, in most cases, were actually aware that they had been overpaid. Also, for the Mirror to say that the rules for AIP are complicated: It's not. The JSP 754 listed the eligible qualifications by branch, so in the event of any questions, it was there for all to see.

It should also be pointed out that RAF personnel ran to the press over this issue in the first instance, squealing like a greased up pig, rather than go through official channels. The RN personnel affected went through official channels, submitting PACCC casework, detailing why they shouldn't be paying it back (the competences were very similarly named in their case) and a fair few didn't have to repay it. Those that do, possibly didn't submit a strong and compelling enough case.

Oh, we did also encourage them to submit service complaints because of the uncertainty of whether they would be paying it back or not, while SPVA and MOD blamed each other as to who had to take the decision to write. I believe it was SPVA as it was ultimately their failure (and hence the later change of name to DBS).

 

[gerrysurfs]

Thanks for the info window, didn't realise it went back to 2011!

 

[Stirlin]

Thanks for the info window, didn't realise it went back to 2011!

Election soon , Labour red top the Mirror stirring the shit.

 

[wave_dodger]

As W_L_S has said it's an old issue. A lot of finger pointing between SPVA and MoD DCDS(Pers) [both as was]. In this instance the SP involved believed they had made correct submissions regarding guidance and hence were being payed properly. The decision to reclaim money was complex and not particularly clear cut.

The most disappointing thing was a lack of the CoC to make an initial 'stop lets sort this out, let's look wider' moment and hence the RAF decided the press and social media was the best way to air their grievance which hid the problem from within the MoD until a lot of pressure had built up.

 

[WindowLickerScribe]

And in so doing, buggering it up for the rest of us!

 

[wave_dodger]

It's not the first problem and it won't be the last. We've a ridiculously complex HR system that borders on being a welfare/social services system that will be even more complex with the implementation and migration to NEM.

You have to remember, no-one makes the mistakes on purpose.