Complete betrayal of the forces - we're asking people to put their lives at risk for our "national interest" yet when they are seriously injured, they're shit on from a great height.asst_dep_to_dep_asst said:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/02/ntroops02.xml
How does everyone feel about the loss of military hospitals, when stories like this come up?
Wasn't it Voltaire who said "I disagree with your view, but I will fight for your right to defend it"? Unfortunately there are an increasing number of fundamentalists of many types, eg religious, anti-hunting, gay-rights, animal-rights, etc., who while they may be in a minority believe that they have the right to their view, and the right to attack anyone who disagrees with it. Add to these minorities, the crazy obsession of politicians not to upset these minorities and we end up with the majority feeling put upon while minorities seem to get away with murder (sometimes literally).snorko said:I think that tarring all muslims with the same shitty stick is oversimplifying the issue. Yes I agree that our troops should be able to be treated in privacy without the threat of such treatment and abuse, and at the same time I hope that the offender was prosecuted but there is also the fact that in our great brother country over the water there are millions of christian fundamentalists who see it as their god given right to wage holy war against the Muslim religion. At the same time, it is only fair to say that the majority of Muslims and Chrisitans and Jews etc are all decent, law abiding people - In Western Europe and America, but that a vociferous and misguided minority act like *********, piss the rest of us off and give their religion a bad name.
Unless you are in Saudi where you can only manifest your belief if you are a Muslim..... I'm sorry, if we have these so called rights to manifest our beliefs they should be applied equally across all of society. If we're going to have cherry picking of international and national laws then all bets should be off. Until Christianity is recognised and allowed to be freely practised in Islamic countries, then followers of Islam should not expect to be able to dictate what is acceptable in a nominally Christian country.Always_a_Civvy said:Flag Wagger,
Religious rights are enshrined in both European and International law and therefore have special legal status. All religions have the right to, for example, manifest, their beliefs.
I think we should have a corresponding right to smite the preaching infidel right between the eyesAlways_a_Civvy said:Muslims have a special duty imposed upon them by the Prophet Mohammed to Command Right and Forbid Wrong. This includes lecturing servicemen who have killed co-religionists - just as Christians and Jews have the same entitlement but grounded upon a different theological criterion.
Tolerant type was he? In my opinion, extremism of any variety is morally wrong; proponents of extremism should, in a non-extremist way, be first against the wall...Always_a_Civvy said:When I grew up I was told my my RE teacher that in God's eyes it was less sinful to kill someone that commit a single homosexual act! You may draw you own conclusions from that.
Royal " " Hospital (note missing Naval) is now administered by Portsmouth Hospitals NHS Trust and is under threat of closure based solely on the requirements of the local PCT.hammockhead said:So what's the deal with RNH Haslar? Has it been closed down or hasn't it?
andym said:Army reservist, as you will no doubt have seen already. The Service medical world has changed immeasurably in the last decade and is very much a tri-Service population now, so whether navy blue, brown or crab is immaterial. It hurts that none of the press leeches has cottoned on that this is the first medic to die as a result of enemy action in recent times. That Des Lyneham is too stressed to travel to Leeds once a week to do Countdown pushes the lads in the Middle East off the top of the headlines is a true reflection of just where the British public places the efforts of Servicemen and is a reflection of the value placed on the Forces by an uncaring society.come_the_day said:RN or Brown Job?
Watching the background to the Great North Run on Sunday and Lt Col David Vassalo's efforts on behalf of 2 girls hideously injured in the Balkans conflict showed what good Britain can do through the efforts of its Armed Forces, but the public needs to have the message rammed home and start to take more notice, or the numbers leaving through disillusionment will continue to grow.
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