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Travelling in rig.

Talking bollocks Geoffrey? I understand the point you are making, but when we WENT ashore you had no option but to be smart or you wouldnt get off the ship, im talking about people walking round town in No8s or whatever they are called today, if they go ashore they should wear Nos 1s, then perhaps people would recognize Sailors again, and im only talking about uniform here not civvies.
 
higthepig said:
Talking bollocks Geoffrey? I understand the point you are making, but when we WENT ashore you had no option but to be smart or you wouldnt get off the ship, im talking about people walking round town in No8s or whatever they are called today, if they go ashore they should wear Nos 1s, then perhaps people would recognize Sailors again, and im only talking about uniform here not civvies.

You lot are completely out of touch. No 1s are ceremonial uniform. It is complete nonsense that people should need to be in ceremonial uniform to appear in public. Uniform should be smart and practical, if it is not good enough for a poxy civvy train then it is not good enough for one of Her Majesty's ships and should be redesigned.

Until a few years ago 3s (white shirt, black trousers) were allowed ashore but 4s (blue shirt, blue trousers) were not. The reason the rules changed is that 4s is every-day working rig for most junior rates, and the Admiralty would rather that matelots travel in 4s rather than change into jeans and t-shirt. We are no longer living in an era when matelots can be forced to travel in uniform - it is encouraged, in order to increase the profile of the Service, but at the end of the day it is up to the individual, who must take his own personal security into consideration.
 
rosinacarley said:
What about travelling C95, saw some AB on the train today, it was clean and tidy and his shoes were OK, but no beret? Is that OK? I have never worn C95 in my life so would not know! Am girlie Wren!

He was inside the train so yeah. Unless I am mistaken, you wouldn't wear headgear indoors so I wouldn't think you wear it inside a train.
 
dunkers said:
The other day I was astonished to see a JR walking into HMS Caledonia in no. 4s, beret on and properly shaped, clean and pressed shirt, sharply creased trousers and polished boots.

He was in entirely correct rig.

Wow. :lol:

At what point did you realise you were looking at a reflection of yourself in a plate glass window Dunkers? :lol:
 
Rosina wrote: What about travelling C95, saw some AB on the train today, it was clean and tidy and his shoes were OK, but no beret? Is that OK? I have never worn C95 in my life so would not know! Am girlie Wren!

No problems with wearing C95 in public. Must have headgear outdoors though. Standard rule anywhere.

SF
 
SILVER_FOX said:
Rosina wrote: What about travelling C95, saw some AB on the train today, it was clean and tidy and his shoes were OK, but no beret? Is that OK? I have never worn C95 in my life so would not know! Am girlie Wren!

No problems with wearing C95 in public. Must have headgear outdoors though. Standard rule anywhere.

SF

Thanks SF, not that I could have done anything about it, I was not carying ID as I was in civvie mode!
 
I used to drive up and down the line in 3's frequently to save time having to go back into Nelson to get changed at secure Friday lunch time. Saves time and you get a 20% discount in some service stations. Always wore my cap after being caught out by three ringer at a service station near Nottingham who'd had the same idea.

Once, for duty reasons I was driving to London in 1's. Not very practical or comfortable.
 
Bloody hell, I only asked a question, not try to start another civil war.

I think the point is this:

I was at times a walking scranbag when on board or bimbling through the dockyard. However, when ashore in rig or civvies I was as tiddly as the next Jackmedhobybucket. It aint a matter of era more of self respect and pride in the Andrew. It still upsets me when I see the matelots of today appearing in public dressed as if they were going to chip paint on the boat deck, or is that contracted out these days?

8s/4s should be just that, working rig, not travelling or socialising rig.

:(
 
Leuchars air show (today) was seemingly a no-headgear event... "don't bother wearing your cap" I was told. Apparantely everyone (and there were hundreds of airmen and some TA soldiers) had been told not to wear headgear to save on saluting all the time. I was there on my RNR recruiting stand :lol:
 
dunkers said:
Leuchars air show (today) was seemingly a no-headgear event... "don't bother wearing your cap" I was told. Apparantely everyone (and there were hundreds of airmen and some TA soldiers) had been told not to wear headgear to save on saluting all the time. I was there on my RNR recruiting stand :lol:

Seems a bit odd. I used to regularly man (and boy) the ROC recruiting stands at the old Biggin Hill and other air shows in Kent - No.1 uniform plus beret. Generally it was understood that one didn't salute as it would result in our arms dropping off by the end of the day - unless there was an senior officer present... Don't know what happens with the RNR recruitments Dunkers, but it always used to tickle me when youngsters used to ask me if I'd fought in the Battle of Britain when I was demo-ing the siren, etc. My reply the first time was 'I'm only 16.' and the lad said 'But did you fly Spitfires?' :lol: :lol: :lol: I must have looked OLD then!!! 8O
 
dunkers said:
Leuchars air show (today) was seemingly a no-headgear event... "don't bother wearing your cap" I was told. Apparantely everyone (and there were hundreds of airmen and some TA soldiers) had been told not to wear headgear to save on saluting all the time. I was there on my RNR recruiting stand :lol:

Do you think it might have something to do with FOD? (feable excuse I know!)
 
Clouseau said:
dunkers said:
Leuchars air show (today) was seemingly a no-headgear event... "don't bother wearing your cap" I was told. Apparantely everyone (and there were hundreds of airmen and some TA soldiers) had been told not to wear headgear to save on saluting all the time. I was there on my RNR recruiting stand :lol:

Do you think it might have something to do with FOD? (feable excuse I know!)

Nah, because there was a hell of a lot of rubbish lying around from the various stalls. In fact I wonder how long it takes them to clear up afterwards, must take days.
 
dunkers said:
Leuchars air show (today) was seemingly a no-headgear event... "don't bother wearing your cap" I was told. Apparantely everyone (and there were hundreds of airmen and some TA soldiers) had been told not to wear headgear to save on saluting all the time. I was there on my RNR recruiting stand :lol:

FOD mate. We're always told negative headgear at air shows. A hat/cap may damage an engine if sucked in. never mind all the other shite that the civvies are wearing!
 

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