Having worked with the REME for the last 3 months, it is interesting to see how they do stuff compared to what we do, basically this how they do it, is it better, or can we use some of this and apply it to the unfolding manpower mess that is the ET branch? Join as a Craftsmen. Basic training followed by streaming into Vehicle mechanics, Techs,Avionics. VMs go onto SEME (School of Electrical and Mechanical Engineers) Techs and Avionics go onto SEAE(School of Electronics Avionics Engineering). Ill take the Tech example. Complete basic and go out into the field. Progress as our lads do Lance Jack/Corporal returning to SEAE to do career courses, culminating making Sergeant at around the 8 year point. This is where it begins to get at bit different. Although they do an electronics course called their class 1 it is just shy of a HNC, but on completion of this course they go out and as Sergeants have the same responsibilities and technical requirements as our PO (ETs). They can stay as Sergeants but are referred to as Artisans, some decide to stay as an Artisan and get their BENGs from distance learning. There is still a career path to WO2 and subsequently WO1, but they really dont expect to make Staff Sergeant to at least the 15 year point in. To those that have passed the PAB (Provisional Artificer Board) there is the option of going onto Tif's course, which to all intents and purposes is the Tif's course I did. They do the course as Sergeants but on completion of course they join their next unit with a BENG and as a Staff Sergeant. The role at their next unit as the 'tif' is basically what we use to refer as the 'Charge Chief'. Their promotion to WO2 and subsequently ASM (Artificer Sergeant Major) is quite fast, and all will generally leave at 22 years as an ASM. Although the Army is retaining the 'Tif' there is moves afoot to take the BENG away and have it as a Management course. What do you think, is this workable in the RN?