========================== ========================== Serious Head on. At the risk of sounding like a grown-up grandfather (sometimes age and/or the OH, obliges even me to act like one) am I alone in concluding that several of the recent posts in the supposedly more serious forums verge towards, if not beyond, the repugnant and are thus stifling discussion? Besides the inevitable/allowable thread drift there seems to be an eagerness of late to descend into irrelevant, expletive-ridden, chat-line-jousting by some of those who really ought to know better. No, I don’t want to be a (noted-more-by-their-absence-than-appearance) Moderator, (I thang yew furry mush for the offer if there ever was one ) but whatever you think of me/this post I am only motivated in wanting whatevers best for RR and for all of those who use it. Sooo - Before giving my little bleat a good ignoring-to please at least hoist in this contribution of 30 months ago from one of Rum Ration’s finest posters – That khaki-wearing cadet-commissioned Cellarman who sometimes even wears his own serious head: No smilees today but, as those of us of the Trade used to say: “Deep down you know it makes sense.” Bob PS Bob's other Quote of the Day: "Self-restraint is very similar to self-abuse; but, like all D-I-Y, it's a tad more difficult for some folk."