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  1. My son went for his medical and passed but the doctor just needed a bit more information and said he is tmu for 4 weeks. His gp sent the forms back early last week but still not heard anything and the 4 weeks was up yesterday, any help would be great
  2. has your son asked the AFCO if they have received any further info back? If not get him to do so. Only reason why I said is going by what you see on "NAvy School" those who's parents do eveything for them seem to struggle a lot as they're not used to having to do things for themselves.
  3. Thankyou for your reply, he phoned his gp last week then phoned his Afco on Monday, he has done everything himself but I was just asking a question, no doubt he will phone them today, it's just so frustrating for him as he's passed everything so far with flying colours
  4. Just get him to ring every so often is the only thing he can do.
  5. I will ask him, what happens after 4 weeks though? Can the Afco assume anything?
  6. I expect our friendly ninja will be along momentarily.
  7. I was made TMU and was told about 4 weeks, depends on each GP I guess, my GP took 12 weeks to send off the information required and then it took another couple of weeks for Capita to pass that information on to my AFCO
  8. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    The frustration is appreciated.

    Once the contracted company write to the GP, the GP surgery very often tell the applicant they have replied but neglect to mention their reply was the submission of an invoice for payment in advance of providing the information requested. This often adds about 8 weeks because the MoD is slow to pay due to the layers of admin involved.

    It is worth checking with the GP surgery Practice Manager to confirm the medical information was sent and when it was sent. If the practice manager has confirmed the information has definitely been sent, the AFCO is notified to book a follow-up medical a couple of weeks later...depending on the area, the average wait for a medical appointment, once requested, is often about another four weeks.

    Sometimes the contracted Doctor has to forward the information received for definitive advice from a specialist - this can add anything from 2 months upward, depending on the complexity of the issue referred.
  9. Many thanks for your help, when my son phoned the GP last Tuesday (23rd) he was told the request was sent to capita and they were waiting for payment, he phoned his Afco this afternoon but they hadn't heard anything.
    The actual medical problem is headaches which he has been clear of for over a year +++ and has never been to the doctor about nor has ever been on any meds or had tests, he was just extremely honest on his form, he explained all this to the doctor he saw but obviously they wanted a GP report, in fact he's not been to the GP for over 5 years for anything
  10. The GP is waiting for a payment from mod or capita, can I pay the GP myself ? The requst was sent out nearly 3 weeks ago for payment
  11. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Tempting though it is, I'd advise against it as there is no recognised mechanism in place to refund non-service individuals and it involves disclosing your bank details for a bacs transfer.

    I'd be more inclined to reassure the GP surgery that there are no reported cases of the MOD failing to pay GPs. Therefore, once the AFCO can confirm Capita have received a PIA (Payment in Advance) request, the surgery should be politely requested to release the information because every week they delay is theoretically costing your son hundreds of pounds in potential lost earnings. Your son could, if he wishes, submit a Subject Access Request to his GP to get an entire copy of his medical records if the Practice Manager continues to be obstructive but this may cost.

    For those that follow, not that it helps the OP, this emphasises the need to follow the advice in the medical appointment letter to minimise the risk of delays.
  12. I managed to get a full copy of my medical records for free (obviously struck lucky!!) will this be accepted in its entirety by the medical examiner? I'm aware that they would need to request a copy anyway due to joint dislocation, but would my copy suffice?
    Hoping to cut down any delays by providing it straight up!
  13. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Only provide a copy of the notes directly relating to the declared condition(s). The medical examiner doesn't need not want to be sifting through irrelevant data. If needs be, ask your GP to provide a summary with amplifying comments.
  14. If I am able to get these do I need to post them to capita or Afco? My son will phone the GP himself tomorrow to see if the records have been posted yet
  15. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Best bet is to get him to speak to his AFCO first to see whether they think this will help speed things along. Sometimes the GP is sent a questionnaire to complete, so a copy of the medical notes may not always be sufficient on their own
  16. Yes I will do that, he's very good at phoning and chasing things up, this is the only thing Iv done in regards to his application
  17. My son called the GP this morning himself and they have sent of 2 more requests for payment, the receptionist can't understand why it's taking so long... So just wait a bit longer
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  18. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Post #8 refers to the approximate MoD payment timescale, once it is received.

    I'd not suggest the contracted company don't make mistakes but I've yet to hear of a GP surgery sending 3 invoices inside six weeks. Most surgeries take anything between 3-6 weeks to submit a single invoice in my region.

    Fingers-crossed the multiple submissions don't cause further delays and the surgery is just as efficient supplying the requested information as they are in supplying invoices.

    The letter actually requests the GP surgery to submit the information before submitting the invoice, rather than submitting a bill in anticipation of services yet to be provided.

    The frustration is appreciated - it maybe worth asking the AFCO to confirm the PIA has been received & if so, then asking the GP to stop sending invoices & switch to sending information, pending payment.

    Good luck.
  19. The report is ready to send but they are not allowed to send until payment is recieved, apparently this is normal with all GP surgeries in my area.... My sons surgery is excellent dealing with requests etc and generally done the same day.
    As for his Afco, he has also been calling them himself but his particular advisor hasn't been in the office for nearly 2 weeks so my son keeps getting told to phone back on this day or that day wich he always does, I guess it's just a waiting game really
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  20. Still waiting for his GP to be paid, his GP has phoned me this morning to find out what the hold up is?? He spoke to his Afco last week and was told to wait.....its just so frustrating for him

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