Times: "Royal Navy Ship Torpedoed Whales In Falklands"

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    "THE Royal Navy killed three whales after mistaking them for enemy submarines during the Falklands War. Two were killed by torpedoes fired from the anti-submarine frigate HMS Brilliant, and the third was attacked by one of the ship’s helicopters.

    The previously undisclosed incidents are taken from the diaries of the ship’s crew, which have been published online by hmsbrilliant.com, a website commemorating the ship’s role in the 1982 war.

    Brilliant’s job was to help defend HMS Invincible, one of two British aircraft carriers deployed in the south Atlantic, against Argentine submarine and missile attack.

    On board, the mood was tense. Recording the first incident, one crew member wrote of a “small sonar contact” that prompted the launch of two torpedoes, each of which hit a whale. He notes drily: “Whale oil sighted by Sea King [helicopter] . . . I think I’ll join Greenpeace".

    Later that day, a Sea King helicopter depth-charged one more suspected "submarine", only to find that it, too, had killed a whale.

    The Ministry of Defence said the sonar equipment of the time could be easily confused by whale signals, but that modern-day equipment was far more discerning.

    A spokesman for Whale and Dolphin Conservation said: "Navies have a duty of care, and we wouldn't expect our own to deliberately choose to blow-up whales."
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  2. Tough on Whales, tough on the causes of Whales!!

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  3. The HMS Brilliant website mentioned in the article.

    Some good stuff, excellent photos:

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  4. Only one word for that---Brilliant.
  5. My contact classified 'Sperm Whale H4'.!!!!!
  6. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    My ship Argonaut & HMS Ardent spent three days chasing whales, suspected submarines, South of Ascension Island in May 1982 before the amphibious task group sailed southwards.

    Wasn't aware anyone actually "engaged" a blubbery bugger, but not all that surprised if it's true. When the shooting match started in San San Carlos after the landings, anything airborne got shot at in a similar manner & I guess as many shitehawks as aircraft were shot down on day one of the landings. No wonder the Harriers decided to keep a respectable distance after day one.

    I've a good mind to stitch-up our Gunners with the RSPB for that crime against ornithology. Not only that, but one of the more enthusiastic Gunners shot away a whip aerial on our ship with a GPMG as he tracked the aircraft as it passed overhead.
  7. At least the ASW boys had a whale of a time :)
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  8. From down the hatch, by JW .....the submarine,had been dived for 20hours,at attack stations. The firing bearings were reached,and overshot. Still the Bodger,made no movement,the Bodger swallowed " do not fire" Visitor surfaced!!! Surface....there's are visitor he pointed. Two miles of the port bow, a very large grey whale,disporting itself in the sea. Make to Captain S/M..Have broken off naval engagement with amorous whale
  9. Did hear a lot of stories at the time circulating through the task force about whales being mistaken for S/M's and engaged however wasn't aware that this actually happened.

    Ninja however is quite correct about the ornithology causing hassle ... taking survivors off the Sheff one of my mates was stood on the arse end of the Sheff when an albatross did a fly over from astern up from zero feet ... he caught the shape in the corner of his eye and with all the smoke / noise / confusion going on thought they were about to be straffed so hit the deck ... how we all took the rip out of him! Good job he didn't have a bang stick with him at the time ... not sure how long bad luck you get from splashing an albatross ... not as if they even make good eating!
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  10. So being the sites resident fat bstrd........................is it safe to go back in the water?
  11. well maybe, in the water , but not on land on your pussers bike going past the accommodation block at Lossie!!!!!!! Much to big of a target for Mitch and his air rifle to miss :bounce::happy6:
  12. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    Euryalus long ago had a Chief Air Tiffie who was much into ornithology. He told us how, on a trip to the South Atlantic, he had tried to catch an albatross with a heaving line so as to ring it. Albatross was duly snagged but was stronger than our man and flew away into the wild blue yonder, heaving line and all.
  13. I didn't realise the damn things we so big until we went for a walkabout through a nesting colony somewhere on East Falkland! They are some big birds!
  14. yep big bird!!!

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  15. Once had to have an Eagle Owl on my arm while my mate who is its handler replaced its leg tag and tethers. Even through a leather glove you could feel its crushing potential. Vicious bugger.

    Albatrosses have a heck of a lot of strength in their wings

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  16. No seagulls around at Lossie, when this guy was flying

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  17. They use a Raptor to scare away the Pigeons at Birkenhead town square, lasts about an hour after the bird and handler feck off before the pigeons return.

    However it bloody shuts up the chavs when they realise said Bird of Prey is eyeing up their sprogs for tea.
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  18. Yet another dit from Faslane, boat in loch whatever doing torpedo trials, fires one, it goes mad shoots off up side of loch and takes out a cow
  19. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    I remember hearing something similar involving Aberporth Ranges, a County Class Destroyer, a SeaSlug going rogue and a surprised Ermintrude ten miles inland, munching grass one minute, morphing into charred mince-burgers the next.
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  20. I thought only the US airforce had Raptors?

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