icarus said:MoD/ Security response seems a bit on the slow side.
Can't agree Icarus. The Greenpeace vessel was contravening several byelaws well before they were boarded, and were looking for a reaction which they did not get until they threatened the boom around the jetties. Modicus Plodicus and the Royals acted correctly and with restraint only when they HAD to. Mophead is correct in his assertion that to go in early and hard only plays into their hands, as it is I feel the moral high ground is with the MOD for a change.
Of course Greenpeace and their lawyers will contend that the byelaws pertaining to the restricted area are unlawful because, in their view, the weapon system is unlawful, in which case the law has no standing and therefore they were exercising their right to free passage and arrested illegally in doing so.
I am sure they will be released by the local beak shortly after having had a fine (vegetarian) breakfast "lovingly" provided by Helensburghs boys in blue with a nice cup of baldricks frothy capucino to wash it down.
Chocolate bits with that sir? :lol:
Mopheadmophead said:Security knew where they were,knew what they were up to;think of the headlines"Navy sinks/arrests/removes Greenpeace protesters",much more damaging than a minor inconvenience.Look how much publicity Greenpeace got out of the French sinking their ship and how little they have got out of this affair.
If they wish to put their own lives at risk that is the same choice as any person taking part in high risk activites, sports or employment takes.safewalrus said:Just hang on fellahs! Seems they were allowed a peaceful protest! Twas only when they breached national security boundries that they were arrested - rightly so in my mind - well done Plod, nice job, again!
Other 'peaceful protests' by Greenpeace - depends on your views I guess! Does preventing Merchant Seamen go about their lawful business and putting their lives at risk (the seamens as well as their own) in their rubber boats by crashing into them at speed - you know the OOW on the bridge is going to try to prevent these so called accidents by swinging the ships - this puts HIS people at risk!
What about fishermen trying to catch fish so he can feed his family (no matter how big the 'fish'), some numptie in a rubber boat dives into his vessel! as I said depends how you look at it! To me Greenpeace are nothing but a bunch of Gungho Chancers! always thought the Royal Navy was all about safe seafaring - looks like I'm wrong!
According to the BBC Website, Greenpeace breached the "no go" zone at c.0800 and the MOD plod "overcame" the boat and took charge at c.1720.The former icebreaker later came to a halt near a defensive boom guarding the nuclear submarines.
It spent several hours in that position before Ministry of Defence police officers with battering rams boarded the vessel and took control.