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Thoughts about this action by Greenpeace?

Democratic country, they're allowed to express their opinions. In terms of breaching an exclusion zone then they're aware of the risks that they face.

I don't think a stronger ROE would be all that useful.
 
I hope they were thinking of their 'carbon footprint' and were in a rowing dingy. That way we could save tax payers money for ammo and pop it?
 
Ahhh good for them! in fact good for all concerned. The greenpeacers aren't into terrorism, they usually make their statement in a different way.

I cannot think of a better bunch of people to have test the base defences. Hopefully lessons will be learned. :wink:
 
MoD/ Security response seems a bit on the slow side, and why they allowed the "Arctic Sunrise" to wander so close suggests incompetence.
We watched Greenpeace's protest boat sail up and down the Clyde on Wednesday. Its presence was not a surprise on Friday. Perhaps we are, again, seeing a softly softly, hands off approach much favoured by this present bunch of political apologists.
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1 small ship is hardly a blockade.................

they are lucky that we don't behave like the French.............

Tick Tick Tick .............

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Security knew where they were,knew what they were up to;think of the headlines"Navy sinks/arrests/removes Greenpeace protesters",much more damaging than a minor inconvenience.Look how much publicity Greenpeace got out of the French sinking their ship and how little they have got out of this affair.
 
icarus said:
MoD/ Security response seems a bit on the slow side.

Can't agree Icarus. The Greenpeace vessel was contravening several byelaws well before they were boarded, and were looking for a reaction which they did not get until they threatened the boom around the jetties. Modicus Plodicus and the Royals acted correctly and with restraint only when they HAD to. Mophead is correct in his assertion that to go in early and hard only plays into their hands, as it is I feel the moral high ground is with the MOD for a change.

Of course Greenpeace and their lawyers will contend that the byelaws pertaining to the restricted area are unlawful because, in their view, the weapon system is unlawful, in which case the law has no standing and therefore they were exercising their right to free passage and arrested illegally in doing so.

I am sure they will be released by the local beak shortly after having had a fine (vegetarian) breakfast "lovingly" provided by Helensburghs boys in blue with a nice cup of baldricks frothy capucino to wash it down.

Chocolate bits with that sir? :lol:
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mophead said:
Security knew where they were,knew what they were up to;think of the headlines"Navy sinks/arrests/removes Greenpeace protesters",much more damaging than a minor inconvenience.Look how much publicity Greenpeace got out of the French sinking their ship and how little they have got out of this affair.
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Mophead

Lets us not forget what the French did in New Zealand was no more and no less than MURDER. If that camera man had been a RN Sailor you would still be screaming abuse from the roof tops all these years later. Then the bottle-less Kiwi ******* let the murderers go

Greenpeace make strong and effective protests, one of the reason's I like living in a Civilized Liberal Western Democracy and not the Middle East.

Can you tell me the last time Green Peace killed anyone whilst engaged in a demonstration.

Who are the c**ts them that let them get close to the base or them that exercises their right protest. Both yourself and the majority of posters are having a go at the wrong organization. MOD are the problem not a little boat full people who still think they can save the world, they are your conscious.

Nutty
 
Nutty,I think you may have mis read my post: my argument was that by taking only minimal appropriate action MOD did the right thing(for once).No one disputes their right to peaceful protest within the law.break the law you get arrested...probably a night in cells and out on bail;not blown up,as some posters would wish(If their posts are to be taken literally)
 
Just hang on fellahs! Seems they were allowed a peaceful protest! Twas only when they breached national security boundries that they were arrested - rightly so in my mind - well done Plod, nice job, again!

Other 'peaceful protests' by Greenpeace - depends on your views I guess! Does preventing Merchant Seamen go about their lawful business and putting their lives at risk (the seamens as well as their own) in their rubber boats by crashing into them at speed - you know the OOW on the bridge is going to try to prevent these so called accidents by swinging the ships - this puts HIS people at risk!

What about fishermen trying to catch fish so he can feed his family (no matter how big the 'fish'), some numptie in a rubber boat dives into his vessel! as I said depends how you look at it! To me Greenpeace are nothing but a bunch of Gungho Chancers! always thought the Royal Navy was all about safe seafaring - looks like I'm wrong!
 
safewalrus said:
Just hang on fellahs! Seems they were allowed a peaceful protest! Twas only when they breached national security boundries that they were arrested - rightly so in my mind - well done Plod, nice job, again!

Other 'peaceful protests' by Greenpeace - depends on your views I guess! Does preventing Merchant Seamen go about their lawful business and putting their lives at risk (the seamens as well as their own) in their rubber boats by crashing into them at speed - you know the OOW on the bridge is going to try to prevent these so called accidents by swinging the ships - this puts HIS people at risk!

What about fishermen trying to catch fish so he can feed his family (no matter how big the 'fish'), some numptie in a rubber boat dives into his vessel! as I said depends how you look at it! To me Greenpeace are nothing but a bunch of Gungho Chancers! always thought the Royal Navy was all about safe seafaring - looks like I'm wrong!
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If they wish to put their own lives at risk that is the same choice as any person taking part in high risk activites, sports or employment takes.

As for the risk to others that only happens when the organisation being protested about take, usually dangerous action to try and prevent the protest. In 99.9% of cases they have a choice as to if they take that action.

So if I protest out side a fuel depot about the high tax on fuel and block the road stopping drivers earning a living, causing disruption to locals thats OK. As you said its a point of view as to what protest you like so lets not get "all holier than thou"

Nutty
 
Behind greenpeace all the way when the subject is the hunting of whales.

This inoffensive creature is a joy to behold. Unlike the scumbags who harpoon it, usually herding the young calf so the adults will return to save the calf then bingo we have two more for the pot. Remember watching a whale being sliced open the eyeball moving in the socket poor thing still alive. Same as the others tied to the side of the whaler waiting to be moved to the factory ship blowing of blood also still alive.

Whaling along with pathetic bullfighting for me has no place in the world.

We have headlines screaming horse stabbed in field. Pop over to Spain and you actually pay to watch a cow speared in a spectacle from the days of dog fighting.

When it comes to the attempted breaching of Faslane I disagree they should stay out of armed forces areas. Leave that to the Blair govt they are achieving things Hitler could not.
 

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