This could Ruin Britain and Consumers

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  1. This will be only the start of it. Unelected leaders, deciding on joint policy, with no options to refuse the changes in law.
    Now is the time for Cameron "Call me Dave" to come off the fence and give us a referendum! :evil:
  2. And so say all of us :twisted: :twisted:
  3. Well its time for the people of this country to stop bleating, and stand and be counted. If apathy went out the window and honesty made a stand then it would be democracy instead of this hollow shell.
    Our interests never did lie with Europe, we had good trade links with commonwealth, but just turned our back.
    Instead we have the tail wagging the dog, a country dictated to by unelected despots like Mandelson, and the bleeding heart liberals.
    The golden rule of trade has always been speculate to accumulate, but the present government seems to shy away from anything that has not been pre approved by their european masters.
    Christ how did they stand, and re elect that nobber in British west Hartlepool for twelve years???
  4. oh come on, the article doesn't say anything. No suggestions as to what kind of bill will replace the many and varied Acts that protect consumers. I am loathe to bore you all with EU law, and besides it is Sunday.

    Do you honestly believe what you read in the papers? That they do not distort it for their own ends?

    Shame on you.
  5. 'ang on a mo! Britain is already financially ruined. Is it supposed that the ability to wear something once and take it back will improve that :roll:
    I feel certain that M+S will 'look closely at it' :lol:
  6. Borrox...Don't give a toss for the EU Parliament. Never voted for it, indeed after the delightful Mr Ted Heath came on television and was asked by a miner "If on joining the EU will the price of Brandy be the same as the French are paying" He replied "Of course thats what the word means Common Market, with all prices the same!"
    On hearing that many voted for it...I voted against it.
    We've had the EU fiasco on "bent carrots" thousands of tonnes of fish being dumped back into the sea because the fishermen can't land them due to exceeding their quotas. It's buerocrasy gone haywire. You and I were promised a referendum, did we get one. NO!
    The papers don't always tell the whole truth, but if Tony Blair can go to War on the smoking gun theory, then so can we all.
    Like your avatar of the cat though, does he/she have a name?
  7. Yes like farmers are always broke as they climb into their new
    Range Rover, or the ruined Bookmaker.
    The consumer keeps the vendor in business, not the other way around and the customer is always right. That established, we should dictate the terms.
    If you cannot market serviceable goods, get out the trade, there are plenty who can.
    If you like shoddy goods, purchase my returns. :twisted: :wink:
  8. I didn't ask for your position on the EU parliament (you fault for not voting then) or indeed your opinion on the Gulf War. I was talking about the Sunday Express printing things for its own ends.

    Here is a list of current consumer protection legislation. the Doorstep Selling Directive 85/577
    Package Travel Directive 90/314
    Unfair Contract Terms Directive 93/13
    Timeshare Directive 94/47
    Distance Selling Directive 97/7
    Price Indication Directive 98/6
    Injunctions Directive 98/27
    Consumer Sales Directive 99/44.

    Here is a link to an EU website,

    If you find that so dull here is a useful quotation from that site

    The EU is committed to improving the quality of life of its citizens. In addition to direct action to protect their rights, the Union ensures that consumer interests are built into EU legislation in all relevant policy areas. As the single market and the single currency open trading borders, as use of the internet and electronic commerce grows and as the service sector expands, it is important that the nearly 500 million citizens in the 27-nation Union benefit from the same high level of consumer protection.

    Why would they suddenly do a volte face and take away consumer protected. It is the Daily Express that talks bollocks. See I am not afraid to use that word.
  9. Spot on senorita gatita!
    It has to be said though that the UK has enjoyed lush consumer rights for many years, rights out of step with the rest of the EU.
    Three years guarantee on new cars for instance, other countries have two years.
    The ability to change internet providers at the drop of a hat. In Spain, despite new legislation, it is still difficult, there is not the same sense of competition, you could be without service for weeks whilst things get sorted out, AND still end up being billed by both companys, until you go through endless phone calls to sort it out.
    You most certainly would not be allowed to wear it once and take it back, that little scam would be spotted immediately and you'd be given the bums rush out of the shop smartish.
    Plus in the UK, and it's a big one, some of the keenest prices in the world, due to it's economic woes largely, but damn good prices for all of that. I honestly know of no other country that has such consistent low prices for just about everything, except booze, fags, and fuel. In Spain I pay more for food, cars, housing and clothing than in the UK. In my opinion the extra for the food is worth due to the higher quality, and it is a fair bit more. I pay much less for booze and fuel but there are no payment options for gas and leccy. The bill comes every month and you pay up front by standing order, and don't you dare default. To simply glance in a bank window costs you, well it feels like that, they charge for everything, and don't you dare default. Upside is that only one bank has got a sniff of government help in the present unpleasantness.
    If I want a new computer it would pay me to get a cheapy flight to the UK, nip out to PC World and nip back in the same day, and still be quids in.
    Here in Spain there is no fleet car market so prices stay high. In the UK you can get a one year old good quality car for a fraction of the new price.
    Have people in the UK had it soft? Perhaps I'd say, and given the gross mishandling of both public and private finances they don't deserve such luxury, but it is a fact, for the moment at least. Do they deserve, and what have they done to deserve, such an easy ride?
    It's a mixed bag.
  10. Next week, we will be commemorating the sacrifice of those who resisted despotism in Europe. I sometimes think that they didn't halt it but merely delayed it.
  11. That my friends you are not going to get, not sooner and not later, best get used to the idea and work with it.
    There is a great price to pay for sitting on the fence. and it ain't just splinters :lol:
  12. I hardly call 27 countries making a dodgy attempt at working together, rather than equally dodgy attempts at killing one another, despotism.
    In a country that has an unelected head of state, and unelelected members sitting in one of its' houses of parliament, I think your statement is a bit rich :wink:
  13. Seems the best reason so far to get out of the EU... :?
  14. sussex2 Ah, yes; democratic socialism.

    I prefer to view my observation as more apposite than rich. We can now be run by our jolly European neighbours without a shot being fired. Progress, eh.
  15. Having read the article in the paper, and comprehending what was written and their quoted sources, it leaves me to the conclusion that there may be some substance to the story. This isn't in the same reporting category of "London Bus on the Moon". What I find amusing is your doubt about a newspaper report and your absolute belief in the EU Directives QED :wink:
  16. Blackrat

    Blackrat War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Bloody Europe sticking it's nose in. The Hun are leading the charge. There's only one currency they understand and we dropped that on Dresden.
  17. Indeed, especially as the hunting season is in full swing 8O
    Don't be too cheesed off as today is all souls day, on which all over the continent people go to honour their dead, whether they died by natural causes, civil war (still very recent in the spanish memory) or by whatever cause; it is a very sombre day. I find it thought provoking when I see my neighbours heading to the cemetery, all smartly dressed and carrying chrysanthemums (handy hint - never give these as a gift they are associated with death).
    Fighting about bananas has to be better then killing millions.
  18. Thank you for the tip on sending chtysanthemums I'll send some to the mother in law.
    As for the current rumpass about the EU. It will remain a bone of contention as the people of this country were promised a referendum. We didn't get one. The Germans and French also were neatly sidestepped. the EU didn't get the answer they wanted from the Irish so they had to run the vote again. it took a major recession and a lot of horse trading to get them to change their minds. There is a stench in the air and it eminates from the EU masters in Brussels. and pervades within the european mainland.
    In England we have the unelected cyclops earning his thirty pieces of silver by nominating the most hated man in this country for the Highest Post.
    Can you not see the frustration and rancour.
    The EU MP's are to say the least less than open about their expenses, and I rather think that it will make our politicians seem like amatuers if they are ever published! :evil:
  19. You are no doubt completely correct, and of course one day the shit will hit the fan, until then we just pay up.
    It's the same old story except we are using bananas instead of guns, for the moment at least, which is all we can expect.

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