The ID cards thread has brought into question the position of those who live off benefits and I admit I have little time for the most glaring examples of this kind of thievery. However, what kind of example is given to the "spongers" by our elected representatives. Seemingly, most of those in Parliament have taken the full whack of allowances for second homes and outgoings support,when their actual outgoings are but a fraction of the amount claimed (vis Prescott, our late, lamented (!) SofS Buff, Mrs Beckett and all the rest). I have had to move several times over my Service career and have had reasonable accommodation in Pompey, Guzz, Scotland, Gib and HM Ships at the taxpayers expense because I was required to be wherever I was. Now, if MPs were put up in Barrack accommodation, with a bathroom between 10-20 people, canteen meals and the other luxuries that I have had over the years, I'd be quite happy, but these are the "thieving scum" that I would sort out before worrying about layabouts with several dog-eared mistresses, too many children, too many animals and council house "luxury"!