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The Random Thread of Bollocks (NSFW)

Biker Buster

Lantern Swinger
It's not their fault, they blame every one else, mostly the older generation, as they are not responsible for their own actions, the government is for not providing a good enough nanny state, unless they want to riot or party and cause trouble, then it's the police's fault for being there spoiling their fun.
In a nutshell..
The blameless society.


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Dredd

War Hero
Super Moderator
Let me give you just one anecdote that illustrates the problem with modern times.

Yesterday I was speaking to a lass who is a twin - her brother works in roofing. He had an injury incident recently but even before he was stitched up (and these were large open wounds on the inner forearm) he was continuing to work. Good ethic, if a little foolhardy. Anyway, they are both 23. As we were speaking about some of the positives from the current plague - a re-evaluation of what is important money-wise being one of them - she said he was moving into his first flat this weekend. All from money he would normally be pissing up the wall every Friday & Saturday night.

The implication being, if we hadn't had local lockdowns imposed then he would never have had the incentive to have saved enough for the deposit, opting instead to "waste" it. But of course (although she did not say it and I am not inclined to think she would - she was happy he had readjusted his priorities), had he continued then that would have been the fault of all the old people who all had it soooooo much easier than the generation of today.

This thing with the free meals outside of school is another one - it is not the fault of the State that the individual cannot properly manage themselves. But with the breakup of communities and the family structure, the people involved are no longer getting the right type of education and support from that source to help them be fully self-sufficient so it was inevitable that they would turn to the government to 'support' them. It just so happens they have done so at a time when the government of the day is one that believes in small government and the importance of personal responsibility as a measure for freedom.

The furore over this seemingly small aspect is actually shining a light on what type of society we believe we should be forming - and it is not encouraging. As stated in another post, it is highlighting cracks that were always there but now bringing them into sharp relief while under strain.
 

Sumo

War Hero
Let me give you just one anecdote that illustrates the problem with modern times.

Yesterday I was speaking to a lass who is a twin - her brother works in roofing. He had an injury incident recently but even before he was stitched up (and these were large open wounds on the inner forearm) he was continuing to work. Good ethic, if a little foolhardy. Anyway, they are both 23. As we were speaking about some of the positives from the current plague - a re-evaluation of what is important money-wise being one of them - she said he was moving into his first flat this weekend. All from money he would normally be pissing up the wall every Friday & Saturday night.

The implication being, if we hadn't had local lockdowns imposed then he would never have had the incentive to have saved enough for the deposit, opting instead to "waste" it. But of course (although she did not say it and I am not inclined to think she would - she was happy he had readjusted his priorities), had he continued then that would have been the fault of all the old people who all had it soooooo much easier than the generation of today.

This thing with the free meals outside of school is another one - it is not the fault of the State that the individual cannot properly manage themselves. But with the breakup of communities and the family structure, the people involved are no longer getting the right type of education and support from that source to help them be fully self-sufficient so it was inevitable that they would turn to the government to 'support' them. It just so happens they have done so at a time when the government of the day is one that believes in small government and the importance of personal responsibility as a measure for freedom.

The furore over this seemingly small aspect is actually shining a light on what type of society we believe we should be forming - and it is not encouraging. As stated in another post, it is highlighting cracks that were always there but now bringing them into sharp relief while under strain.
I can relate to that, pissing all my money away as young Jack, that is. Then one day I was married with kids, time for a priority change, well almost, sober at home, and a few swift halves when away.
 

mainbrace

Lantern Swinger
Governments are elected to govern, not to be dictated to by causes led by alleged 'celebraties' - including 22 year old footballers. The welfare state is there as a backstop safety net for for everyone. For those who want free meals for kids at all times (over and above those given during term time), vote for a labour government and follow through the proper democratic processes to make it happen. Otherwise, shit in it.
 

taffscrivs

War Hero
The businesses making money during this pandemic are the likes of Burger King, McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Domino's ,Costa, Cafe Nero etc. Add a whole host of Betting and Casino websites and the hundreds of Tattoo
parlours that have sprung up all over the country and this may show where a helluva lot of money is going that could possibly be used to feed the kids properly. Spending money down Aldi's or Lidl's might be a more responsible way to feed children that no-one was forced to bring into this world. In a lot of cases more sensible use of the weekly purse would be a better option than looking to the government for handouts every time there's a bit of a crisis.
 

Ballistic

War Hero
 

cjg375

Lantern Swinger
This may be a simplistic view of mine but not long back we had a major recession with thousands of jobs lost but the kids being fed was not an issue.

Now we have a pandemic, thousands of jobs lost and all of a sudden the kids are starving and it's all the Government's fault.

What happened between the two events to cause this?
It’s only an issue because of the colour of government at present. Even Mr Rashfords complaints during his upbringing were mainly the responsibility of the red flavoured government, but the current blues get it in the neck.
 

janner

MIA
Book Reviewer
It's interesting that some Eateries are offering a free kids meal with each Adult one purchased, if they can afford to eat out why do they need hand outs.
 

LifebuoyGhost

Lantern Swinger
It's interesting that some Eateries are offering a free kids meal with each Adult one purchased, if they can afford to eat out why do they need hand outs.
And we ( the taxpayer ) have probably already bought loads of them meals with the completely ridiculous "Eat out to Help Out " - and don't even get me started on how many houses we've paid for with the even worse "Help to Buy"
 

taffscrivs

War Hero
Add a contribution each week from the salaries of the overpaid TV presenters and pundits who constantly knock the Government day in day out and the sum would swell the coffers considerably.
 
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