Jenny_Dabber said:
Next the Pope will be blamed form the European mass murder spree's in the old days!
If you mean the anti-Semitic pogroms you'd be right to blame the Church - for formenting anti-Semitism in the first place JD. It still existed in residual form even in the 1970s with some of the things I was taught in RE. That is one good thing I can say for JP2 - he did start to change the Church's historic anti-Semitism.
safewalrus said:
...religious cyclepaths...
I just love that term. I think it should enter the canons of Jackspeak! Although I sympathise with your sentiments, to be fair some are good people who seem to possess humility and actually practice their faith. For others it a convenient vehicle for political advancement...
Streaky said:
The Christian Emperor quoted by the Nazi....sorry, Pope, is from the 15th century. Just at the time the church was at it's most loveable, forgiving and cheerful. Turn the other cheek, and all that.
What about the Spanish Inquisition?
Nobody expected that!
You were lucky to get away with a red hot poker up your bum, and to grateful for that small mercy.
Very true Streaky. The Italian Inquisition was however much worse and more murderous than its famous Spanish predecessor. The Spanish Church opposed torturing spinsters, etc and making them confess to witchcraft, rejecting the ideas of the
Malleus Maleficarum (Hammar of Witches) of 1486 which were so widely embraced by the Church in its Crusade against those whose beliefs deviated in any manner from those of the Papacy of Innocent VIII. And even today the Catholic Church dislikes criticism or scrutiny of its internal proceedures or beliefs. It wants to have it both ways - just like Marxists and Muslims really - only one "truth" is acceptable.
grefs said:
The Bast***ds go and shoot an Italian nun and her bodyguard.
Nuns have bodyguards these days? 8O Having said that she has died a martyr's death so will probably be beautified.
higthepig said:
What a wonderful country we live in , the muslims are out in force in London protesting about the Pope, yet when they (non Muslims) want to hold a protest about our forces being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, its banned on health and safety grounds, makes you proud does`nt it? I dont want to see it but the BNP ranks will swell even more.
Precisely, though their march was in London not scheduled to take place outside the Labour Party conference. It is shameful however - of course the families should be allowed to protest. As for health & safety considerations, what about the health & safety considerations of sending young servicemen out there in the first place. Look at the undermanning in Afganistan and the resultant lack of sleep it is leading to. As we all know, sleep deprevation and machinery (eg. guns) are not a good conbination!