The new Prince of Wales

Ageing_Gracefully

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A bit of time lapse video of a huge section of PoW leaving the constructing yard to Rosyth.


Interesting stuff, good to see the tug working its trade!
 
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pg55555

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redmonkey

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Just watching that video clip and it will be tight getting them out of the docks.
Sod being special sea dutymen and Navs for that.
 

wave_dodger

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Jane's saying that RN is studying whether PoW should be modified for Amphibious warfare with QE to be modified in a refit WHILST retaining their main role as naval air operations (I thought that was the plan already !)
SDSR15 said that we had to fit out PWLS for a LitM role. Work is being done to understand what that really means and what that will cost. Before SDSR there were some assumptions that a CVF could operate in a LitM role but nothing had really been done to work the detail and implications out, so SDSR has formalised that.
 
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My next ship, hopefully!
**** me fella, when's your FAD? 2035?

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Jane's saying that RN is studying whether PoW should be modified for Amphibious warfare with QE to be modified in a refit WHILST retaining their main role as naval air operations (I thought that was the plan already !) ;
The plan for both to carry out LITM has been on the table for ages. Ain't no money for modification, it'll be doing it as is. By the way, it's PWLS not Prisoner of War. Prisoner of Rosyth perhaps.
 

wave_dodger

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The plan for both to carry out LITM has been on the table for ages. Ain't no money for modification, it'll be doing it as is.
Not true. As the sponsors we had plans for carrier strike. The LitM role was hinted at preSDSR but not funded. So now the work looks at what is needed, quantifies that and seeks appropriate funding.
 
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Not true. As the sponsors we had plans for carrier strike. The LitM role was hinted at preSDSR but not funded. So now the work looks at what is needed, quantifies that and seeks appropriate funding.
Unsurprisingly, your reply would indicate that a lot of people aren't talking to each other.

Carrier Strike with tagged on LitM has been a lot more than hinted at. Happy to discuss offline if you like.
 
#18
Excuse my ignorance but what does "LitM" mean?
In the context of this thread I'm guessing it's to do with amphibious ops: Littoral ... something?
 
#19
That was a while ago. Bloody thing is almost complete now.

levers
Levers true a whole Naval career ago for some?

The scary thing for you large target dwellers is you had an ex-submariner writing you Availability, Reliability and Maintainability requirements, but that is not too much of a problem, they mainly affect contract stuff, the really scary bit is I also wrote the Survivability, Manoeuvrability and Operability requirements which could affect the way the vessel feels and operates at sea. As the project moved North I had a call from the CVF MD a number of years after I had left, to see If I wanted to re-join the project, as all the requirement’s I had signed off with the customer back in 2003 were still valid and had not been changed, so when you are at sea in roughers doing an hand break turn remember that Sumo may have written that Key User Requirement on Manoeuvrability?

I declined the MD’s offer, as it was too far North, only a small customer facing team would be left in Bristol.

The question is what the hell did an ex-Chief WEA Submariner know about big ships, and who trusted him to write requirement’s?
 

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