The Law is an Ass

Discussion in 'Diamond Lil's' started by slim, Oct 28, 2007.

Welcome to the Navy Net aka Rum Ration

The UK's largest and busiest UNofficial RN website.

The heart of the site is the forum area, including:

  1. Now why is it that British law in not consistant?
    A black man savages an old man on a bus and does not got to jail

    Yet for the heinous crime below a jail sentence is deemed necessary.


    http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Wheelchair-conman-on-the-run.3422078.jp

    Wheelchair conman on the run

    A WHEELCHAIR conman is on the run after claiming to be a fundraiser in a charity scam.
    While Hartlepool man Peter Robert Cannell (pictured) remains at large, his accomplice who tricked people out of cash by claiming to be collecting money for Springfield Special School has been sentenced
    Michael Ian Mathieson, 23, was jailed by Hartlepool magistrates for his part in the con that saw him join wheelchair-bound Cannell to prey on homes in Nookston Close, Hartlepool.

    Prosecutor Norman Lawson said: "With a sponsor form they stated to the occupier they were fundraising on behalf of Springfield Special School.

    "Mr Mathieson was on his feet and the co-accused, Mr Cannell, was in a wheelchair."

    The pair told the occupant they were raising money for equipment and they were sponsored to the sum of £5.

    They then went next door and they were given a further £2, the prosecutor said.

    Mathieson told police he went along with the con after meeting Cannell at some shops and received £50 for his part, before throwing the sponsor form down a drain.

    Mathieson, of Garside Drive, Hartlepool, admitted to two counts of fraud by false representation.

    Cannell, 32, of Pounder Place, Hartlepool, also admitted the offence, but a warrant was issued for his arrest after he failed to turn up in court for sentencing.

    John Relton, mitigating for Mathieson, said: " He is very sorry he did it."

    Magistrates jailed Mathieson for 60 days

    So can we take it that the theft of £7.00 is worse than beating up an old man?

    And from the same newspaper:
    http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Stolen-car-crashed-by-banned.3420770.jp

    Stolen car crashed by banned driver





    « Previous « PreviousNext » Next »
    View GalleryBy Emma Greenhalgh
    A BANNED driver smashed a stolen car into another moving vehicle during a police chase.

    The incident came a month after Ian Phillip Kime accused a police patrol car of speeding.

    The 23-year-old sped at 40 miles per hour in 30 mph restricted streets in the Dyke House area of Hartlepool in a stolen Nissan Almera.

    In a bid to escape police, the fugitive ignored a give way sign and ploughed into a moving Ford Fiesta at the junction of Milbank Road and Brougham Terrace, leaving the other driver needing hospital treatment, magistrates heard.

    Kime, who admitted taking the vehicle without the owner's consent and driving while disqualified and without insurance, continued his getaway, but was later arrested in Grove Street.

    Prosecutor Peter Milne told town magistrates that officers first spotted the stolen car at 5pm on October 15, in Challoner Road.

    Speaking about the collision he said: "The impact of the collision caused the Ford to spin 180 degrees and finally come to stop on the opposite side of the road."

    He said the male driver received muscular injuries to his neck and shoulders.

    The court heard that on September 14, Kime was arrested after he walked into the path of a police car in Winterbottom Avenue, Hartlepool, and swore at officers telling them to slow down because it was a 30 mph limit.

    Kime, of Moffat Road, Hartlepool, also pleaded guilty to other offences committed between May 20 and July 24, 2007.

    They were resisting a police officer on May 20, a public order offence directed towards a police officer on June 5, racially aggravated harassment towards police officers on July 24, and an assault on a PC on the same day.

    Mr Milne added that Kime also has three previous assaults on PCs on record, dating back to March 2005.

    Neil Taylor, mitigating, said: "I don't think that there is anything wrong with a member of the public drawing the speed limit to the attention of a police officer."

    He asked magistrates to give Kime credit for his guilty pleas.

    Kime was given a four month prison sentence suspended for two years, and was ordered to complete 200 hours unpaid work. He was placed on a two year supervision order and was disqualified from driving for a further 12 months

    Just unbelievable.
     
  2. Contributors Mode

    Slim

    You are still under the misapprehension that Magistrates and judges can impose what ever sentence the feel like within there particular powers. That started to go the day bail became a right and not a privilege 35 years ago.

    As stated before each case has a certain set of boxes to be ticked when this is completed the Beaks are left with a narrow field in which to make their decision. Some offences such as a bit of vigilante action or failing to pay poll tax seen to attract a prison sentence whatever the facts. Many others a first time offender will never get a custodial sentence.

    One of the reasons that this happened was that the law abiding Daily Wail reading public demanded equal sentencing across the courts across the land so the Home Office gave it to them, cut all sentences its cheaper not to send people to prison or tie up probation or social works with them so you reap as you sow.

    Nutty
     
  3. Nutty
    I am under no illusion as to what the magistrates can and can't award as punishments.
    Having read the article about the wheelchair pair I am amazed that there was a custodial sentence imposed.
    Basically they had committed fraud but for £7.00, no one had been forced to give, no threats issued just a fairly harmless ploy to make a few bob for a beer or two. A fine and some public service would have been more than adequate.
     
  4. Did I not see in the papers over the last couple of days where a pissed up youth threatened his dad, then when the Old Bill were summoned, make about 6 stab wounds in the plods Flak Jacket before he was arrested ? Because this piece of garbage has suddenly found himself a girlfriend, and has cured his drinking habit (overnight ?), he was spared a custodial sentence. He obviously doesn't live on the same street as the magistrate - it begs me to ask the question - what have you got to do to be banged up these days ?
     
  5. Thats an easy one:
    Con people out of £7.00 in sponsorship money for a non event. :thumright:
     

Share This Page